No sound unless root in Debian Buster












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I've just done a dist upgrade on my Debian SID computer, and the sound disappeared.



I can play an audio file in root, but not as a normal user.
I've checked that I'm in the "audio" group.
I've checked to see if anything is muted by running alsamixer, but all line is up and running.



Here are the Audio output I have on the computer:



$ lspci  | grep Audio
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 HDMI Audio Controller (rev a1)


I have an unplugged HDMI output (the NVIDIA controller). My audio headers are plugged on my Intel controller.
I can see this driver when I run alsamixer, but only see the HDMI output from my graphics card in the pavucontrol output devices.



enter image description here



When listing my audio sinks, I only get one null device:



$ pacmd list-sinks
1 sink(s) available.
* index: 2
name: <auto_null>
driver: <module-null-sink.c>
flags: DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY FLAT_VOLUME DYNAMIC_LATENCY
state: IDLE
suspend cause:
priority: 1000
volume: front-left: 56362 / 86% / -3,93 dB, front-right: 55706 / 85% / -4,23 dB
balance -0,01
base volume: 65536 / 100% / 0,00 dB
volume steps: 65537
muted: no
current latency: 5,63 ms
max request: 6 KiB
max rewind: 6 KiB
monitor source: 2
sample spec: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
channel map: front-left,front-right
Stéréo
used by: 0
linked by: 1
configured latency: 40,00 ms; range is 0,50 .. 2000,00 ms
module: 20
properties:
device.description = "Sortie factice"
device.class = "abstract"
device.icon_name = "audio-card"


I don't really understand deeply how the sound system works in Debian, but I think I understand that my normal user does not have the right to access the Intel chip. From here, I'm stuck and can't really find out what to do...



EDIT:



I managed to get back the sound by disabling auto-mute in alsamixer. This settings has been somehow change during the system update.



But after a reboot, the problem came back, but the auto-mute was still off.



Thanks to dirkt answer, I think I have found the source of this issue:
When running aplay -L as normal user and root user, I noticed some differences:



$ aplay -L
default
Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server
sysdefault:CARD=PCH
HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
Default Audio Device
$ sudo aplay -L 
default:CARD=PCH
HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
Default Audio Device
sysdefault:CARD=PCH
HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
Default Audio Device


It seems that the default card is not the same when running as simple user.
I could have some sound when selecting sysdefault instead of default card as normal user.



$ aplay -D sysdefault sound.wav


But now, I'm a bit stuck. I think I've pinpoint the source of the issue, but cannot find out how to solve it...










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  • Restore from backup and file a bug with the distro maintainer.
    – ajeh
    Jun 26 '18 at 21:34
















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I've just done a dist upgrade on my Debian SID computer, and the sound disappeared.



I can play an audio file in root, but not as a normal user.
I've checked that I'm in the "audio" group.
I've checked to see if anything is muted by running alsamixer, but all line is up and running.



Here are the Audio output I have on the computer:



$ lspci  | grep Audio
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 HDMI Audio Controller (rev a1)


I have an unplugged HDMI output (the NVIDIA controller). My audio headers are plugged on my Intel controller.
I can see this driver when I run alsamixer, but only see the HDMI output from my graphics card in the pavucontrol output devices.



enter image description here



When listing my audio sinks, I only get one null device:



$ pacmd list-sinks
1 sink(s) available.
* index: 2
name: <auto_null>
driver: <module-null-sink.c>
flags: DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY FLAT_VOLUME DYNAMIC_LATENCY
state: IDLE
suspend cause:
priority: 1000
volume: front-left: 56362 / 86% / -3,93 dB, front-right: 55706 / 85% / -4,23 dB
balance -0,01
base volume: 65536 / 100% / 0,00 dB
volume steps: 65537
muted: no
current latency: 5,63 ms
max request: 6 KiB
max rewind: 6 KiB
monitor source: 2
sample spec: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
channel map: front-left,front-right
Stéréo
used by: 0
linked by: 1
configured latency: 40,00 ms; range is 0,50 .. 2000,00 ms
module: 20
properties:
device.description = "Sortie factice"
device.class = "abstract"
device.icon_name = "audio-card"


I don't really understand deeply how the sound system works in Debian, but I think I understand that my normal user does not have the right to access the Intel chip. From here, I'm stuck and can't really find out what to do...



EDIT:



I managed to get back the sound by disabling auto-mute in alsamixer. This settings has been somehow change during the system update.



But after a reboot, the problem came back, but the auto-mute was still off.



Thanks to dirkt answer, I think I have found the source of this issue:
When running aplay -L as normal user and root user, I noticed some differences:



$ aplay -L
default
Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server
sysdefault:CARD=PCH
HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
Default Audio Device
$ sudo aplay -L 
default:CARD=PCH
HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
Default Audio Device
sysdefault:CARD=PCH
HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
Default Audio Device


It seems that the default card is not the same when running as simple user.
I could have some sound when selecting sysdefault instead of default card as normal user.



$ aplay -D sysdefault sound.wav


But now, I'm a bit stuck. I think I've pinpoint the source of the issue, but cannot find out how to solve it...










share|improve this question
























  • Restore from backup and file a bug with the distro maintainer.
    – ajeh
    Jun 26 '18 at 21:34














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I've just done a dist upgrade on my Debian SID computer, and the sound disappeared.



I can play an audio file in root, but not as a normal user.
I've checked that I'm in the "audio" group.
I've checked to see if anything is muted by running alsamixer, but all line is up and running.



Here are the Audio output I have on the computer:



$ lspci  | grep Audio
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 HDMI Audio Controller (rev a1)


I have an unplugged HDMI output (the NVIDIA controller). My audio headers are plugged on my Intel controller.
I can see this driver when I run alsamixer, but only see the HDMI output from my graphics card in the pavucontrol output devices.



enter image description here



When listing my audio sinks, I only get one null device:



$ pacmd list-sinks
1 sink(s) available.
* index: 2
name: <auto_null>
driver: <module-null-sink.c>
flags: DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY FLAT_VOLUME DYNAMIC_LATENCY
state: IDLE
suspend cause:
priority: 1000
volume: front-left: 56362 / 86% / -3,93 dB, front-right: 55706 / 85% / -4,23 dB
balance -0,01
base volume: 65536 / 100% / 0,00 dB
volume steps: 65537
muted: no
current latency: 5,63 ms
max request: 6 KiB
max rewind: 6 KiB
monitor source: 2
sample spec: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
channel map: front-left,front-right
Stéréo
used by: 0
linked by: 1
configured latency: 40,00 ms; range is 0,50 .. 2000,00 ms
module: 20
properties:
device.description = "Sortie factice"
device.class = "abstract"
device.icon_name = "audio-card"


I don't really understand deeply how the sound system works in Debian, but I think I understand that my normal user does not have the right to access the Intel chip. From here, I'm stuck and can't really find out what to do...



EDIT:



I managed to get back the sound by disabling auto-mute in alsamixer. This settings has been somehow change during the system update.



But after a reboot, the problem came back, but the auto-mute was still off.



Thanks to dirkt answer, I think I have found the source of this issue:
When running aplay -L as normal user and root user, I noticed some differences:



$ aplay -L
default
Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server
sysdefault:CARD=PCH
HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
Default Audio Device
$ sudo aplay -L 
default:CARD=PCH
HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
Default Audio Device
sysdefault:CARD=PCH
HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
Default Audio Device


It seems that the default card is not the same when running as simple user.
I could have some sound when selecting sysdefault instead of default card as normal user.



$ aplay -D sysdefault sound.wav


But now, I'm a bit stuck. I think I've pinpoint the source of the issue, but cannot find out how to solve it...










share|improve this question















I've just done a dist upgrade on my Debian SID computer, and the sound disappeared.



I can play an audio file in root, but not as a normal user.
I've checked that I'm in the "audio" group.
I've checked to see if anything is muted by running alsamixer, but all line is up and running.



Here are the Audio output I have on the computer:



$ lspci  | grep Audio
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 HDMI Audio Controller (rev a1)


I have an unplugged HDMI output (the NVIDIA controller). My audio headers are plugged on my Intel controller.
I can see this driver when I run alsamixer, but only see the HDMI output from my graphics card in the pavucontrol output devices.



enter image description here



When listing my audio sinks, I only get one null device:



$ pacmd list-sinks
1 sink(s) available.
* index: 2
name: <auto_null>
driver: <module-null-sink.c>
flags: DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY FLAT_VOLUME DYNAMIC_LATENCY
state: IDLE
suspend cause:
priority: 1000
volume: front-left: 56362 / 86% / -3,93 dB, front-right: 55706 / 85% / -4,23 dB
balance -0,01
base volume: 65536 / 100% / 0,00 dB
volume steps: 65537
muted: no
current latency: 5,63 ms
max request: 6 KiB
max rewind: 6 KiB
monitor source: 2
sample spec: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
channel map: front-left,front-right
Stéréo
used by: 0
linked by: 1
configured latency: 40,00 ms; range is 0,50 .. 2000,00 ms
module: 20
properties:
device.description = "Sortie factice"
device.class = "abstract"
device.icon_name = "audio-card"


I don't really understand deeply how the sound system works in Debian, but I think I understand that my normal user does not have the right to access the Intel chip. From here, I'm stuck and can't really find out what to do...



EDIT:



I managed to get back the sound by disabling auto-mute in alsamixer. This settings has been somehow change during the system update.



But after a reboot, the problem came back, but the auto-mute was still off.



Thanks to dirkt answer, I think I have found the source of this issue:
When running aplay -L as normal user and root user, I noticed some differences:



$ aplay -L
default
Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server
sysdefault:CARD=PCH
HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
Default Audio Device
$ sudo aplay -L 
default:CARD=PCH
HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
Default Audio Device
sysdefault:CARD=PCH
HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
Default Audio Device


It seems that the default card is not the same when running as simple user.
I could have some sound when selecting sysdefault instead of default card as normal user.



$ aplay -D sysdefault sound.wav


But now, I'm a bit stuck. I think I've pinpoint the source of the issue, but cannot find out how to solve it...







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  • Restore from backup and file a bug with the distro maintainer.
    – ajeh
    Jun 26 '18 at 21:34


















  • Restore from backup and file a bug with the distro maintainer.
    – ajeh
    Jun 26 '18 at 21:34
















Restore from backup and file a bug with the distro maintainer.
– ajeh
Jun 26 '18 at 21:34




Restore from backup and file a bug with the distro maintainer.
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Problem solved: after the upgrade, I don't know why, the output was in automute. I just had to change it in alsamixer.



Sometimes, digging deep is not needed.






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  • Since you said you checked if anything was muted, this was hard to guess from your question...
    – dirkt
    Jul 2 '18 at 9:55










  • I understand. But while checking this I missed the auto-mute option that I did not know about.
    – Nicolas Appriou
    Jul 2 '18 at 11:14



















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Brief overview of sound: The sound hardware is managed by kernel drivers (formerly a part of ALSA), ALSA provides libraries to access the kernel drivers (this is what you see with alsamixer), and Pulseaudio runs on top of ALSA. One reason for that is that without extra effort, ALSA devices can only be used by a single program, while Pulseaudio allows multiple programs to use the hardware by providing a transport layer.



No sink with Pulseaudio means Pulseaudio failed to grab the ALSA device(s), possibly because (1) permissions are wrong, (2) something else is already using them, (3) something totally different went wrong.



So the first step is to stop Pulseaudio, then use aplay -L to see your ALSA devices, and try aplay -D ... audio_file.wav to see if you can access the device directly. Depending on the result of that the next step is either to look what is blocking the device (something else has started earlier and is using it), or to find out why Pulseaudio isn't using the ALSA devices (e.g. load module-alsa-card directly with pacmd, look at the error message/log entries). How to stop Pulseaudio depends on how you started it, possibly with systemd, possibly via your Desktop system login.



Inspecting the command line of running processes with ps axu etc. may give hints about the points mentioned above, and will also make sure Pulseaudio has been stopped properly, and is not restarting itself.






share|improve this answer





















  • This helped me find out the source of the problem. Thanks. I've edited my question to reflect advances in this issue.
    – Nicolas Appriou
    Jul 2 '18 at 9:53



















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Actually the problem comes from the fact you've got PulseAudio AND a NVidia GPU w/ the blob.



The solution consists in preventing PulseAudio from starting by inserting garbage in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf (just a single letter at the end of the file). Then you will only be able to set the volue through AlsaMixer but at least sound will be back.



I've raised ticket #918522 about this issue. Feel free to contribute.






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    Problem solved: after the upgrade, I don't know why, the output was in automute. I just had to change it in alsamixer.



    Sometimes, digging deep is not needed.






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    • Since you said you checked if anything was muted, this was hard to guess from your question...
      – dirkt
      Jul 2 '18 at 9:55










    • I understand. But while checking this I missed the auto-mute option that I did not know about.
      – Nicolas Appriou
      Jul 2 '18 at 11:14
















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    Problem solved: after the upgrade, I don't know why, the output was in automute. I just had to change it in alsamixer.



    Sometimes, digging deep is not needed.






    share|improve this answer





















    • Since you said you checked if anything was muted, this was hard to guess from your question...
      – dirkt
      Jul 2 '18 at 9:55










    • I understand. But while checking this I missed the auto-mute option that I did not know about.
      – Nicolas Appriou
      Jul 2 '18 at 11:14














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    Problem solved: after the upgrade, I don't know why, the output was in automute. I just had to change it in alsamixer.



    Sometimes, digging deep is not needed.






    share|improve this answer












    Problem solved: after the upgrade, I don't know why, the output was in automute. I just had to change it in alsamixer.



    Sometimes, digging deep is not needed.







    share|improve this answer












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    answered Jun 27 '18 at 8:19









    Nicolas Appriou

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    • Since you said you checked if anything was muted, this was hard to guess from your question...
      – dirkt
      Jul 2 '18 at 9:55










    • I understand. But while checking this I missed the auto-mute option that I did not know about.
      – Nicolas Appriou
      Jul 2 '18 at 11:14


















    • Since you said you checked if anything was muted, this was hard to guess from your question...
      – dirkt
      Jul 2 '18 at 9:55










    • I understand. But while checking this I missed the auto-mute option that I did not know about.
      – Nicolas Appriou
      Jul 2 '18 at 11:14
















    Since you said you checked if anything was muted, this was hard to guess from your question...
    – dirkt
    Jul 2 '18 at 9:55




    Since you said you checked if anything was muted, this was hard to guess from your question...
    – dirkt
    Jul 2 '18 at 9:55












    I understand. But while checking this I missed the auto-mute option that I did not know about.
    – Nicolas Appriou
    Jul 2 '18 at 11:14




    I understand. But while checking this I missed the auto-mute option that I did not know about.
    – Nicolas Appriou
    Jul 2 '18 at 11:14













    1














    Brief overview of sound: The sound hardware is managed by kernel drivers (formerly a part of ALSA), ALSA provides libraries to access the kernel drivers (this is what you see with alsamixer), and Pulseaudio runs on top of ALSA. One reason for that is that without extra effort, ALSA devices can only be used by a single program, while Pulseaudio allows multiple programs to use the hardware by providing a transport layer.



    No sink with Pulseaudio means Pulseaudio failed to grab the ALSA device(s), possibly because (1) permissions are wrong, (2) something else is already using them, (3) something totally different went wrong.



    So the first step is to stop Pulseaudio, then use aplay -L to see your ALSA devices, and try aplay -D ... audio_file.wav to see if you can access the device directly. Depending on the result of that the next step is either to look what is blocking the device (something else has started earlier and is using it), or to find out why Pulseaudio isn't using the ALSA devices (e.g. load module-alsa-card directly with pacmd, look at the error message/log entries). How to stop Pulseaudio depends on how you started it, possibly with systemd, possibly via your Desktop system login.



    Inspecting the command line of running processes with ps axu etc. may give hints about the points mentioned above, and will also make sure Pulseaudio has been stopped properly, and is not restarting itself.






    share|improve this answer





















    • This helped me find out the source of the problem. Thanks. I've edited my question to reflect advances in this issue.
      – Nicolas Appriou
      Jul 2 '18 at 9:53
















    1














    Brief overview of sound: The sound hardware is managed by kernel drivers (formerly a part of ALSA), ALSA provides libraries to access the kernel drivers (this is what you see with alsamixer), and Pulseaudio runs on top of ALSA. One reason for that is that without extra effort, ALSA devices can only be used by a single program, while Pulseaudio allows multiple programs to use the hardware by providing a transport layer.



    No sink with Pulseaudio means Pulseaudio failed to grab the ALSA device(s), possibly because (1) permissions are wrong, (2) something else is already using them, (3) something totally different went wrong.



    So the first step is to stop Pulseaudio, then use aplay -L to see your ALSA devices, and try aplay -D ... audio_file.wav to see if you can access the device directly. Depending on the result of that the next step is either to look what is blocking the device (something else has started earlier and is using it), or to find out why Pulseaudio isn't using the ALSA devices (e.g. load module-alsa-card directly with pacmd, look at the error message/log entries). How to stop Pulseaudio depends on how you started it, possibly with systemd, possibly via your Desktop system login.



    Inspecting the command line of running processes with ps axu etc. may give hints about the points mentioned above, and will also make sure Pulseaudio has been stopped properly, and is not restarting itself.






    share|improve this answer





















    • This helped me find out the source of the problem. Thanks. I've edited my question to reflect advances in this issue.
      – Nicolas Appriou
      Jul 2 '18 at 9:53














    1












    1








    1






    Brief overview of sound: The sound hardware is managed by kernel drivers (formerly a part of ALSA), ALSA provides libraries to access the kernel drivers (this is what you see with alsamixer), and Pulseaudio runs on top of ALSA. One reason for that is that without extra effort, ALSA devices can only be used by a single program, while Pulseaudio allows multiple programs to use the hardware by providing a transport layer.



    No sink with Pulseaudio means Pulseaudio failed to grab the ALSA device(s), possibly because (1) permissions are wrong, (2) something else is already using them, (3) something totally different went wrong.



    So the first step is to stop Pulseaudio, then use aplay -L to see your ALSA devices, and try aplay -D ... audio_file.wav to see if you can access the device directly. Depending on the result of that the next step is either to look what is blocking the device (something else has started earlier and is using it), or to find out why Pulseaudio isn't using the ALSA devices (e.g. load module-alsa-card directly with pacmd, look at the error message/log entries). How to stop Pulseaudio depends on how you started it, possibly with systemd, possibly via your Desktop system login.



    Inspecting the command line of running processes with ps axu etc. may give hints about the points mentioned above, and will also make sure Pulseaudio has been stopped properly, and is not restarting itself.






    share|improve this answer












    Brief overview of sound: The sound hardware is managed by kernel drivers (formerly a part of ALSA), ALSA provides libraries to access the kernel drivers (this is what you see with alsamixer), and Pulseaudio runs on top of ALSA. One reason for that is that without extra effort, ALSA devices can only be used by a single program, while Pulseaudio allows multiple programs to use the hardware by providing a transport layer.



    No sink with Pulseaudio means Pulseaudio failed to grab the ALSA device(s), possibly because (1) permissions are wrong, (2) something else is already using them, (3) something totally different went wrong.



    So the first step is to stop Pulseaudio, then use aplay -L to see your ALSA devices, and try aplay -D ... audio_file.wav to see if you can access the device directly. Depending on the result of that the next step is either to look what is blocking the device (something else has started earlier and is using it), or to find out why Pulseaudio isn't using the ALSA devices (e.g. load module-alsa-card directly with pacmd, look at the error message/log entries). How to stop Pulseaudio depends on how you started it, possibly with systemd, possibly via your Desktop system login.



    Inspecting the command line of running processes with ps axu etc. may give hints about the points mentioned above, and will also make sure Pulseaudio has been stopped properly, and is not restarting itself.







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    • This helped me find out the source of the problem. Thanks. I've edited my question to reflect advances in this issue.
      – Nicolas Appriou
      Jul 2 '18 at 9:53


















    • This helped me find out the source of the problem. Thanks. I've edited my question to reflect advances in this issue.
      – Nicolas Appriou
      Jul 2 '18 at 9:53
















    This helped me find out the source of the problem. Thanks. I've edited my question to reflect advances in this issue.
    – Nicolas Appriou
    Jul 2 '18 at 9:53




    This helped me find out the source of the problem. Thanks. I've edited my question to reflect advances in this issue.
    – Nicolas Appriou
    Jul 2 '18 at 9:53











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    Actually the problem comes from the fact you've got PulseAudio AND a NVidia GPU w/ the blob.



    The solution consists in preventing PulseAudio from starting by inserting garbage in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf (just a single letter at the end of the file). Then you will only be able to set the volue through AlsaMixer but at least sound will be back.



    I've raised ticket #918522 about this issue. Feel free to contribute.






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      Actually the problem comes from the fact you've got PulseAudio AND a NVidia GPU w/ the blob.



      The solution consists in preventing PulseAudio from starting by inserting garbage in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf (just a single letter at the end of the file). Then you will only be able to set the volue through AlsaMixer but at least sound will be back.



      I've raised ticket #918522 about this issue. Feel free to contribute.






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        Actually the problem comes from the fact you've got PulseAudio AND a NVidia GPU w/ the blob.



        The solution consists in preventing PulseAudio from starting by inserting garbage in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf (just a single letter at the end of the file). Then you will only be able to set the volue through AlsaMixer but at least sound will be back.



        I've raised ticket #918522 about this issue. Feel free to contribute.






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        Actually the problem comes from the fact you've got PulseAudio AND a NVidia GPU w/ the blob.



        The solution consists in preventing PulseAudio from starting by inserting garbage in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf (just a single letter at the end of the file). Then you will only be able to set the volue through AlsaMixer but at least sound will be back.



        I've raised ticket #918522 about this issue. Feel free to contribute.







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