challenges using devices and stdin
I am using an embedded ubuntu based processor as a machine vision system. It communicates over 2 serial ports with an associated flight controller.
My problem was that normal open(), close() calls supporting the vision<->flight controller communications caused stdin calls (fgets(), scanf(), etc) to fail in peculiar ways - the calls thought there was input, but there wasn't, and the returned buffer was garbage.
I originally thought this was due to conflicts between the kernel's default text console and my use of the serial devices. After a circuitous search, I realized this was incorrect - I found a subtle bug that caused the device file descriptor to be set to 0 - same as stdin - under some circumstances.
I found this bug by following up a lead from roamina below. I have left his answer as accepted because he set me on the trail to the real problem.
Comments below do have some useful info for others with concerns about devices, stdin, and the default text console.
thanks
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I am using an embedded ubuntu based processor as a machine vision system. It communicates over 2 serial ports with an associated flight controller.
My problem was that normal open(), close() calls supporting the vision<->flight controller communications caused stdin calls (fgets(), scanf(), etc) to fail in peculiar ways - the calls thought there was input, but there wasn't, and the returned buffer was garbage.
I originally thought this was due to conflicts between the kernel's default text console and my use of the serial devices. After a circuitous search, I realized this was incorrect - I found a subtle bug that caused the device file descriptor to be set to 0 - same as stdin - under some circumstances.
I found this bug by following up a lead from roamina below. I have left his answer as accepted because he set me on the trail to the real problem.
Comments below do have some useful info for others with concerns about devices, stdin, and the default text console.
thanks
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"Reading suggests thatsttysets stdin to the port being configured" - not in my experience. What should happen is thatsttyconfigures the line attached to its stdin. I've also known systems reset the line characteristics when all file descriptors to that device are closed (effectively negating a naivestty ... </dev/ttyXXbut I have no way of confirming if that also applies to Linux-based systems.
– roaima
yesterday
roaima's comment regarding stdin being set seem correct to me. I took my interpretation from man stty - but it clearly says something different than my original interpretation. I have edited question to avoid confusion.
– sneiman
yesterday
well - the problem is actually very different from the question I asked. I figured it out by taking a look at the link roaima noted. It led me on a path that made me realize that there was actually NO tty issue - the problem was a subtle bug that was resetting the open fd to 0. my bad. thank you roaima for sticking with me.
– sneiman
10 hours ago
For those with similar problems: under almost all circumstance the fd for stdin is 0. open() should return a different fd for a legitimately configured open call. If it doesn't, you either closed fd 0, or have a bug that is incorrectly using 0 as fd.
– sneiman
10 hours ago
Finally, the default console is set int the kernel command line. You can view this typically at /proc/cmdline. Changing it depends on what version of linux you are on, If I knew them all I would list them - if you need to sort it out, search for 'kernel command line' and read the details for your version of linux.
– sneiman
9 hours ago
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I am using an embedded ubuntu based processor as a machine vision system. It communicates over 2 serial ports with an associated flight controller.
My problem was that normal open(), close() calls supporting the vision<->flight controller communications caused stdin calls (fgets(), scanf(), etc) to fail in peculiar ways - the calls thought there was input, but there wasn't, and the returned buffer was garbage.
I originally thought this was due to conflicts between the kernel's default text console and my use of the serial devices. After a circuitous search, I realized this was incorrect - I found a subtle bug that caused the device file descriptor to be set to 0 - same as stdin - under some circumstances.
I found this bug by following up a lead from roamina below. I have left his answer as accepted because he set me on the trail to the real problem.
Comments below do have some useful info for others with concerns about devices, stdin, and the default text console.
thanks
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I am using an embedded ubuntu based processor as a machine vision system. It communicates over 2 serial ports with an associated flight controller.
My problem was that normal open(), close() calls supporting the vision<->flight controller communications caused stdin calls (fgets(), scanf(), etc) to fail in peculiar ways - the calls thought there was input, but there wasn't, and the returned buffer was garbage.
I originally thought this was due to conflicts between the kernel's default text console and my use of the serial devices. After a circuitous search, I realized this was incorrect - I found a subtle bug that caused the device file descriptor to be set to 0 - same as stdin - under some circumstances.
I found this bug by following up a lead from roamina below. I have left his answer as accepted because he set me on the trail to the real problem.
Comments below do have some useful info for others with concerns about devices, stdin, and the default text console.
thanks
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"Reading suggests thatsttysets stdin to the port being configured" - not in my experience. What should happen is thatsttyconfigures the line attached to its stdin. I've also known systems reset the line characteristics when all file descriptors to that device are closed (effectively negating a naivestty ... </dev/ttyXXbut I have no way of confirming if that also applies to Linux-based systems.
– roaima
yesterday
roaima's comment regarding stdin being set seem correct to me. I took my interpretation from man stty - but it clearly says something different than my original interpretation. I have edited question to avoid confusion.
– sneiman
yesterday
well - the problem is actually very different from the question I asked. I figured it out by taking a look at the link roaima noted. It led me on a path that made me realize that there was actually NO tty issue - the problem was a subtle bug that was resetting the open fd to 0. my bad. thank you roaima for sticking with me.
– sneiman
10 hours ago
For those with similar problems: under almost all circumstance the fd for stdin is 0. open() should return a different fd for a legitimately configured open call. If it doesn't, you either closed fd 0, or have a bug that is incorrectly using 0 as fd.
– sneiman
10 hours ago
Finally, the default console is set int the kernel command line. You can view this typically at /proc/cmdline. Changing it depends on what version of linux you are on, If I knew them all I would list them - if you need to sort it out, search for 'kernel command line' and read the details for your version of linux.
– sneiman
9 hours ago
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"Reading suggests thatsttysets stdin to the port being configured" - not in my experience. What should happen is thatsttyconfigures the line attached to its stdin. I've also known systems reset the line characteristics when all file descriptors to that device are closed (effectively negating a naivestty ... </dev/ttyXXbut I have no way of confirming if that also applies to Linux-based systems.
– roaima
yesterday
roaima's comment regarding stdin being set seem correct to me. I took my interpretation from man stty - but it clearly says something different than my original interpretation. I have edited question to avoid confusion.
– sneiman
yesterday
well - the problem is actually very different from the question I asked. I figured it out by taking a look at the link roaima noted. It led me on a path that made me realize that there was actually NO tty issue - the problem was a subtle bug that was resetting the open fd to 0. my bad. thank you roaima for sticking with me.
– sneiman
10 hours ago
For those with similar problems: under almost all circumstance the fd for stdin is 0. open() should return a different fd for a legitimately configured open call. If it doesn't, you either closed fd 0, or have a bug that is incorrectly using 0 as fd.
– sneiman
10 hours ago
Finally, the default console is set int the kernel command line. You can view this typically at /proc/cmdline. Changing it depends on what version of linux you are on, If I knew them all I would list them - if you need to sort it out, search for 'kernel command line' and read the details for your version of linux.
– sneiman
9 hours ago
"Reading suggests that
stty sets stdin to the port being configured" - not in my experience. What should happen is that stty configures the line attached to its stdin. I've also known systems reset the line characteristics when all file descriptors to that device are closed (effectively negating a naive stty ... </dev/ttyXX but I have no way of confirming if that also applies to Linux-based systems.– roaima
yesterday
"Reading suggests that
stty sets stdin to the port being configured" - not in my experience. What should happen is that stty configures the line attached to its stdin. I've also known systems reset the line characteristics when all file descriptors to that device are closed (effectively negating a naive stty ... </dev/ttyXX but I have no way of confirming if that also applies to Linux-based systems.– roaima
yesterday
roaima's comment regarding stdin being set seem correct to me. I took my interpretation from man stty - but it clearly says something different than my original interpretation. I have edited question to avoid confusion.
– sneiman
yesterday
roaima's comment regarding stdin being set seem correct to me. I took my interpretation from man stty - but it clearly says something different than my original interpretation. I have edited question to avoid confusion.
– sneiman
yesterday
well - the problem is actually very different from the question I asked. I figured it out by taking a look at the link roaima noted. It led me on a path that made me realize that there was actually NO tty issue - the problem was a subtle bug that was resetting the open fd to 0. my bad. thank you roaima for sticking with me.
– sneiman
10 hours ago
well - the problem is actually very different from the question I asked. I figured it out by taking a look at the link roaima noted. It led me on a path that made me realize that there was actually NO tty issue - the problem was a subtle bug that was resetting the open fd to 0. my bad. thank you roaima for sticking with me.
– sneiman
10 hours ago
For those with similar problems: under almost all circumstance the fd for stdin is 0. open() should return a different fd for a legitimately configured open call. If it doesn't, you either closed fd 0, or have a bug that is incorrectly using 0 as fd.
– sneiman
10 hours ago
For those with similar problems: under almost all circumstance the fd for stdin is 0. open() should return a different fd for a legitimately configured open call. If it doesn't, you either closed fd 0, or have a bug that is incorrectly using 0 as fd.
– sneiman
10 hours ago
Finally, the default console is set int the kernel command line. You can view this typically at /proc/cmdline. Changing it depends on what version of linux you are on, If I knew them all I would list them - if you need to sort it out, search for 'kernel command line' and read the details for your version of linux.
– sneiman
9 hours ago
Finally, the default console is set int the kernel command line. You can view this typically at /proc/cmdline. Changing it depends on what version of linux you are on, If I knew them all I would list them - if you need to sort it out, search for 'kernel command line' and read the details for your version of linux.
– sneiman
9 hours ago
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If all you want to do is to set the terminal line characteristics and have them stick, try this
# Serial line
tty=/dev/ttyS1
# Open the serial port and hold it open
sleep 300 <$tty &
slpid=$!
# Set the characteristics and run the serial port code
stty 19200... <$tty
/run/your/program
# Clean up
kill $slpid 2>/dev/null
answered yesterday
roaimaroaima
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Thanks for this. It works of course, but is not my actual problem. The more I think about it, I think the kernel has stolen /dev/ttyS2 for its default text console, and I just have to figure out how to change that. There are no grub files unfortunately. I am going to close the question, and ask a better one, unless you object. seth
– sneiman
yesterday
@sneiman the Ubuntu Serial Console Howto explains the steps to activate a serial console. It might be worth checking that to see if your embedded system already has it enabled, and if so what steps you can take to disable it.
– roaima
18 hours ago
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If all you want to do is to set the terminal line characteristics and have them stick, try this
# Serial line
tty=/dev/ttyS1
# Open the serial port and hold it open
sleep 300 <$tty &
slpid=$!
# Set the characteristics and run the serial port code
stty 19200... <$tty
/run/your/program
# Clean up
kill $slpid 2>/dev/null
answered yesterday
roaimaroaima
43k551116
Thanks for this. It works of course, but is not my actual problem. The more I think about it, I think the kernel has stolen /dev/ttyS2 for its default text console, and I just have to figure out how to change that. There are no grub files unfortunately. I am going to close the question, and ask a better one, unless you object. seth
– sneiman
yesterday
@sneiman the Ubuntu Serial Console Howto explains the steps to activate a serial console. It might be worth checking that to see if your embedded system already has it enabled, and if so what steps you can take to disable it.
– roaima
18 hours ago
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If all you want to do is to set the terminal line characteristics and have them stick, try this
# Serial line
tty=/dev/ttyS1
# Open the serial port and hold it open
sleep 300 <$tty &
slpid=$!
# Set the characteristics and run the serial port code
stty 19200... <$tty
/run/your/program
# Clean up
kill $slpid 2>/dev/null
answered yesterday
roaimaroaima
43k551116
Thanks for this. It works of course, but is not my actual problem. The more I think about it, I think the kernel has stolen /dev/ttyS2 for its default text console, and I just have to figure out how to change that. There are no grub files unfortunately. I am going to close the question, and ask a better one, unless you object. seth
– sneiman
yesterday
@sneiman the Ubuntu Serial Console Howto explains the steps to activate a serial console. It might be worth checking that to see if your embedded system already has it enabled, and if so what steps you can take to disable it.
– roaima
18 hours ago
add a comment |
If all you want to do is to set the terminal line characteristics and have them stick, try this
# Serial line
tty=/dev/ttyS1
# Open the serial port and hold it open
sleep 300 <$tty &
slpid=$!
# Set the characteristics and run the serial port code
stty 19200... <$tty
/run/your/program
# Clean up
kill $slpid 2>/dev/null
answered yesterday
roaimaroaima
43k551116
If all you want to do is to set the terminal line characteristics and have them stick, try this
# Serial line
tty=/dev/ttyS1
# Open the serial port and hold it open
sleep 300 <$tty &
slpid=$!
# Set the characteristics and run the serial port code
stty 19200... <$tty
/run/your/program
# Clean up
kill $slpid 2>/dev/null
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roaimaroaima
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roaimaroaima
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Thanks for this. It works of course, but is not my actual problem. The more I think about it, I think the kernel has stolen /dev/ttyS2 for its default text console, and I just have to figure out how to change that. There are no grub files unfortunately. I am going to close the question, and ask a better one, unless you object. seth
– sneiman
yesterday
@sneiman the Ubuntu Serial Console Howto explains the steps to activate a serial console. It might be worth checking that to see if your embedded system already has it enabled, and if so what steps you can take to disable it.
– roaima
18 hours ago
add a comment |
Thanks for this. It works of course, but is not my actual problem. The more I think about it, I think the kernel has stolen /dev/ttyS2 for its default text console, and I just have to figure out how to change that. There are no grub files unfortunately. I am going to close the question, and ask a better one, unless you object. seth
– sneiman
yesterday
@sneiman the Ubuntu Serial Console Howto explains the steps to activate a serial console. It might be worth checking that to see if your embedded system already has it enabled, and if so what steps you can take to disable it.
– roaima
18 hours ago
Thanks for this. It works of course, but is not my actual problem. The more I think about it, I think the kernel has stolen /dev/ttyS2 for its default text console, and I just have to figure out how to change that. There are no grub files unfortunately. I am going to close the question, and ask a better one, unless you object. seth
– sneiman
yesterday
Thanks for this. It works of course, but is not my actual problem. The more I think about it, I think the kernel has stolen /dev/ttyS2 for its default text console, and I just have to figure out how to change that. There are no grub files unfortunately. I am going to close the question, and ask a better one, unless you object. seth
– sneiman
yesterday
@sneiman the Ubuntu Serial Console Howto explains the steps to activate a serial console. It might be worth checking that to see if your embedded system already has it enabled, and if so what steps you can take to disable it.
– roaima
18 hours ago
@sneiman the Ubuntu Serial Console Howto explains the steps to activate a serial console. It might be worth checking that to see if your embedded system already has it enabled, and if so what steps you can take to disable it.
– roaima
18 hours ago
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"Reading suggests that
sttysets stdin to the port being configured" - not in my experience. What should happen is thatsttyconfigures the line attached to its stdin. I've also known systems reset the line characteristics when all file descriptors to that device are closed (effectively negating a naivestty ... </dev/ttyXXbut I have no way of confirming if that also applies to Linux-based systems.– roaima
yesterday
roaima's comment regarding stdin being set seem correct to me. I took my interpretation from man stty - but it clearly says something different than my original interpretation. I have edited question to avoid confusion.
– sneiman
yesterday
well - the problem is actually very different from the question I asked. I figured it out by taking a look at the link roaima noted. It led me on a path that made me realize that there was actually NO tty issue - the problem was a subtle bug that was resetting the open fd to 0. my bad. thank you roaima for sticking with me.
– sneiman
10 hours ago
For those with similar problems: under almost all circumstance the fd for stdin is 0. open() should return a different fd for a legitimately configured open call. If it doesn't, you either closed fd 0, or have a bug that is incorrectly using 0 as fd.
– sneiman
10 hours ago
Finally, the default console is set int the kernel command line. You can view this typically at /proc/cmdline. Changing it depends on what version of linux you are on, If I knew them all I would list them - if you need to sort it out, search for 'kernel command line' and read the details for your version of linux.
– sneiman
9 hours ago