Can a 6th-level Totem Warrior barbarian (Eagle totem) with the Observant feat read the lips of a creature a...












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A level 6 Path of the Totem Warrior barbarian (PHB, p. 50) can choose the Eagle totem, which states:




You gain the eyesight of an eagle. You can see up to 1 mile away with no difficulty, able to discern even fine details as though looking at something no more than 100 feet away from you. Additionally, dim light doesn't impose disadvantage on your Wisdom (Perception) checks.




Combine this with the Observant feat (PHB, p. 168):




If you can see a creature's mouth while it is speaking a language you understand, you can interpret what it's saying by reading its lips.




Using this combination, can I read a creature's lips, speaking a language I understand, from a mile away?






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    A level 6 Path of the Totem Warrior barbarian (PHB, p. 50) can choose the Eagle totem, which states:




    You gain the eyesight of an eagle. You can see up to 1 mile away with no difficulty, able to discern even fine details as though looking at something no more than 100 feet away from you. Additionally, dim light doesn't impose disadvantage on your Wisdom (Perception) checks.




    Combine this with the Observant feat (PHB, p. 168):




    If you can see a creature's mouth while it is speaking a language you understand, you can interpret what it's saying by reading its lips.




    Using this combination, can I read a creature's lips, speaking a language I understand, from a mile away?






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      A level 6 Path of the Totem Warrior barbarian (PHB, p. 50) can choose the Eagle totem, which states:




      You gain the eyesight of an eagle. You can see up to 1 mile away with no difficulty, able to discern even fine details as though looking at something no more than 100 feet away from you. Additionally, dim light doesn't impose disadvantage on your Wisdom (Perception) checks.




      Combine this with the Observant feat (PHB, p. 168):




      If you can see a creature's mouth while it is speaking a language you understand, you can interpret what it's saying by reading its lips.




      Using this combination, can I read a creature's lips, speaking a language I understand, from a mile away?






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      A level 6 Path of the Totem Warrior barbarian (PHB, p. 50) can choose the Eagle totem, which states:




      You gain the eyesight of an eagle. You can see up to 1 mile away with no difficulty, able to discern even fine details as though looking at something no more than 100 feet away from you. Additionally, dim light doesn't impose disadvantage on your Wisdom (Perception) checks.




      Combine this with the Observant feat (PHB, p. 168):




      If you can see a creature's mouth while it is speaking a language you understand, you can interpret what it's saying by reading its lips.




      Using this combination, can I read a creature's lips, speaking a language I understand, from a mile away?






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          Excellent combo.



          You quoted all the relevant rules. To read lips, you need to




          see a creature's mouth while it is speaking a language you understand




          And with the Eagle totem at 6th level, you get to clearly see creatures and fine details (like moving lips) within 1 mile. It is legal and a great idea.






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            The "as though looking at something no more than 100 feet away from you" bit isn't quite so supportive though. I can see the individual twigs at the tip of a tree branch 100 feet away, so I get some detail, but I absolutely couldn't read lips at that distance without binoculars/telescope. A DM could easily deny this or limit it to some fraction of the one mile range, proportionate to the 100' equivalent range, e.g. only allow it from 0.2 miles away, on the theory that lip reading doesn't work beyond 20' normally (I don't know how close you need to be in practice).
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          • @ShadowRanger: A DM could certainly limit it. That said, BlueMoon93's answer is correct; by the rules as written, all you need to read lips is to see the creature's mouth - and the Eagle totem certainly lets you see the creature's mouth (though perhaps not as perfectly as one might deem reasonable to read lips).
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          Excellent combo.



          You quoted all the relevant rules. To read lips, you need to




          see a creature's mouth while it is speaking a language you understand




          And with the Eagle totem at 6th level, you get to clearly see creatures and fine details (like moving lips) within 1 mile. It is legal and a great idea.






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            The "as though looking at something no more than 100 feet away from you" bit isn't quite so supportive though. I can see the individual twigs at the tip of a tree branch 100 feet away, so I get some detail, but I absolutely couldn't read lips at that distance without binoculars/telescope. A DM could easily deny this or limit it to some fraction of the one mile range, proportionate to the 100' equivalent range, e.g. only allow it from 0.2 miles away, on the theory that lip reading doesn't work beyond 20' normally (I don't know how close you need to be in practice).
            – ShadowRanger
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          • @ShadowRanger: A DM could certainly limit it. That said, BlueMoon93's answer is correct; by the rules as written, all you need to read lips is to see the creature's mouth - and the Eagle totem certainly lets you see the creature's mouth (though perhaps not as perfectly as one might deem reasonable to read lips).
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          Excellent combo.



          You quoted all the relevant rules. To read lips, you need to




          see a creature's mouth while it is speaking a language you understand




          And with the Eagle totem at 6th level, you get to clearly see creatures and fine details (like moving lips) within 1 mile. It is legal and a great idea.






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            The "as though looking at something no more than 100 feet away from you" bit isn't quite so supportive though. I can see the individual twigs at the tip of a tree branch 100 feet away, so I get some detail, but I absolutely couldn't read lips at that distance without binoculars/telescope. A DM could easily deny this or limit it to some fraction of the one mile range, proportionate to the 100' equivalent range, e.g. only allow it from 0.2 miles away, on the theory that lip reading doesn't work beyond 20' normally (I don't know how close you need to be in practice).
            – ShadowRanger
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          • @ShadowRanger: A DM could certainly limit it. That said, BlueMoon93's answer is correct; by the rules as written, all you need to read lips is to see the creature's mouth - and the Eagle totem certainly lets you see the creature's mouth (though perhaps not as perfectly as one might deem reasonable to read lips).
            – V2Blast
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          Excellent combo.



          You quoted all the relevant rules. To read lips, you need to




          see a creature's mouth while it is speaking a language you understand




          And with the Eagle totem at 6th level, you get to clearly see creatures and fine details (like moving lips) within 1 mile. It is legal and a great idea.






          share|improve this answer














          Excellent combo.



          You quoted all the relevant rules. To read lips, you need to




          see a creature's mouth while it is speaking a language you understand




          And with the Eagle totem at 6th level, you get to clearly see creatures and fine details (like moving lips) within 1 mile. It is legal and a great idea.







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            The "as though looking at something no more than 100 feet away from you" bit isn't quite so supportive though. I can see the individual twigs at the tip of a tree branch 100 feet away, so I get some detail, but I absolutely couldn't read lips at that distance without binoculars/telescope. A DM could easily deny this or limit it to some fraction of the one mile range, proportionate to the 100' equivalent range, e.g. only allow it from 0.2 miles away, on the theory that lip reading doesn't work beyond 20' normally (I don't know how close you need to be in practice).
            – ShadowRanger
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          • @ShadowRanger: A DM could certainly limit it. That said, BlueMoon93's answer is correct; by the rules as written, all you need to read lips is to see the creature's mouth - and the Eagle totem certainly lets you see the creature's mouth (though perhaps not as perfectly as one might deem reasonable to read lips).
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            The "as though looking at something no more than 100 feet away from you" bit isn't quite so supportive though. I can see the individual twigs at the tip of a tree branch 100 feet away, so I get some detail, but I absolutely couldn't read lips at that distance without binoculars/telescope. A DM could easily deny this or limit it to some fraction of the one mile range, proportionate to the 100' equivalent range, e.g. only allow it from 0.2 miles away, on the theory that lip reading doesn't work beyond 20' normally (I don't know how close you need to be in practice).
            – ShadowRanger
            24 mins ago












          • @ShadowRanger: A DM could certainly limit it. That said, BlueMoon93's answer is correct; by the rules as written, all you need to read lips is to see the creature's mouth - and the Eagle totem certainly lets you see the creature's mouth (though perhaps not as perfectly as one might deem reasonable to read lips).
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          The "as though looking at something no more than 100 feet away from you" bit isn't quite so supportive though. I can see the individual twigs at the tip of a tree branch 100 feet away, so I get some detail, but I absolutely couldn't read lips at that distance without binoculars/telescope. A DM could easily deny this or limit it to some fraction of the one mile range, proportionate to the 100' equivalent range, e.g. only allow it from 0.2 miles away, on the theory that lip reading doesn't work beyond 20' normally (I don't know how close you need to be in practice).
          – ShadowRanger
          24 mins ago






          The "as though looking at something no more than 100 feet away from you" bit isn't quite so supportive though. I can see the individual twigs at the tip of a tree branch 100 feet away, so I get some detail, but I absolutely couldn't read lips at that distance without binoculars/telescope. A DM could easily deny this or limit it to some fraction of the one mile range, proportionate to the 100' equivalent range, e.g. only allow it from 0.2 miles away, on the theory that lip reading doesn't work beyond 20' normally (I don't know how close you need to be in practice).
          – ShadowRanger
          24 mins ago














          @ShadowRanger: A DM could certainly limit it. That said, BlueMoon93's answer is correct; by the rules as written, all you need to read lips is to see the creature's mouth - and the Eagle totem certainly lets you see the creature's mouth (though perhaps not as perfectly as one might deem reasonable to read lips).
          – V2Blast
          18 mins ago






          @ShadowRanger: A DM could certainly limit it. That said, BlueMoon93's answer is correct; by the rules as written, all you need to read lips is to see the creature's mouth - and the Eagle totem certainly lets you see the creature's mouth (though perhaps not as perfectly as one might deem reasonable to read lips).
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