Got matching offer from company I want to work for. Should I ask for a raise?
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I am working as Junior Developer in a small company, with 6 months experience. Recently, I applied for a job in field I want to specialize in, and declared my expectations as its salary cap (which would be a 15% raise for me).
I have received an offer matching my current salary, and recruiter said it was lowered from what I proposed, due to my review performance. I consider it as a fair argument - I have not answered every question regarding must-have skills.
Job offer includes whole new career possibilities, more perspective projects, interesting technology stack and much better benefits, I would accept it as-is with no doubt. It is a great opportunity for me.
Should I ask for more to have high ground for future pay-rises (or not to be considered a doormat) and how far should I push?
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I am working as Junior Developer in a small company, with 6 months experience. Recently, I applied for a job in field I want to specialize in, and declared my expectations as its salary cap (which would be a 15% raise for me).
I have received an offer matching my current salary, and recruiter said it was lowered from what I proposed, due to my review performance. I consider it as a fair argument - I have not answered every question regarding must-have skills.
Job offer includes whole new career possibilities, more perspective projects, interesting technology stack and much better benefits, I would accept it as-is with no doubt. It is a great opportunity for me.
Should I ask for more to have high ground for future pay-rises (or not to be considered a doormat) and how far should I push?
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I would just ask what are the possibilities to change the pay in the future. For example in work I started AFTER yearly pay increase in company (so normally I would wait 10 months). But I negotiated a raise after my probation period.
– SZCZERZO KŁY
yesterday
There are revaluations twice a year. First contract is for 3 months.
– juniorCoder
yesterday
@juniorCoder Then that's perfect, you join them. You're no worse off, then if you can prove yourself then you can be reevaluated in 3 months time
– Twyxz
yesterday
Ask for 7.5% and see what they say. If they say no, you haven't lost anything by asking.
– TonyK
yesterday
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@juniorCoder - sounds like your mind is made up. Good luck.
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I am working as Junior Developer in a small company, with 6 months experience. Recently, I applied for a job in field I want to specialize in, and declared my expectations as its salary cap (which would be a 15% raise for me).
I have received an offer matching my current salary, and recruiter said it was lowered from what I proposed, due to my review performance. I consider it as a fair argument - I have not answered every question regarding must-have skills.
Job offer includes whole new career possibilities, more perspective projects, interesting technology stack and much better benefits, I would accept it as-is with no doubt. It is a great opportunity for me.
Should I ask for more to have high ground for future pay-rises (or not to be considered a doormat) and how far should I push?
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I am working as Junior Developer in a small company, with 6 months experience. Recently, I applied for a job in field I want to specialize in, and declared my expectations as its salary cap (which would be a 15% raise for me).
I have received an offer matching my current salary, and recruiter said it was lowered from what I proposed, due to my review performance. I consider it as a fair argument - I have not answered every question regarding must-have skills.
Job offer includes whole new career possibilities, more perspective projects, interesting technology stack and much better benefits, I would accept it as-is with no doubt. It is a great opportunity for me.
Should I ask for more to have high ground for future pay-rises (or not to be considered a doormat) and how far should I push?
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I would just ask what are the possibilities to change the pay in the future. For example in work I started AFTER yearly pay increase in company (so normally I would wait 10 months). But I negotiated a raise after my probation period.
– SZCZERZO KŁY
yesterday
There are revaluations twice a year. First contract is for 3 months.
– juniorCoder
yesterday
@juniorCoder Then that's perfect, you join them. You're no worse off, then if you can prove yourself then you can be reevaluated in 3 months time
– Twyxz
yesterday
Ask for 7.5% and see what they say. If they say no, you haven't lost anything by asking.
– TonyK
yesterday
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@juniorCoder - sounds like your mind is made up. Good luck.
– Joe Strazzere
yesterday
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I would just ask what are the possibilities to change the pay in the future. For example in work I started AFTER yearly pay increase in company (so normally I would wait 10 months). But I negotiated a raise after my probation period.
– SZCZERZO KŁY
yesterday
There are revaluations twice a year. First contract is for 3 months.
– juniorCoder
yesterday
@juniorCoder Then that's perfect, you join them. You're no worse off, then if you can prove yourself then you can be reevaluated in 3 months time
– Twyxz
yesterday
Ask for 7.5% and see what they say. If they say no, you haven't lost anything by asking.
– TonyK
yesterday
2
@juniorCoder - sounds like your mind is made up. Good luck.
– Joe Strazzere
yesterday
I would just ask what are the possibilities to change the pay in the future. For example in work I started AFTER yearly pay increase in company (so normally I would wait 10 months). But I negotiated a raise after my probation period.
– SZCZERZO KŁY
yesterday
I would just ask what are the possibilities to change the pay in the future. For example in work I started AFTER yearly pay increase in company (so normally I would wait 10 months). But I negotiated a raise after my probation period.
– SZCZERZO KŁY
yesterday
There are revaluations twice a year. First contract is for 3 months.
– juniorCoder
yesterday
There are revaluations twice a year. First contract is for 3 months.
– juniorCoder
yesterday
@juniorCoder Then that's perfect, you join them. You're no worse off, then if you can prove yourself then you can be reevaluated in 3 months time
– Twyxz
yesterday
@juniorCoder Then that's perfect, you join them. You're no worse off, then if you can prove yourself then you can be reevaluated in 3 months time
– Twyxz
yesterday
Ask for 7.5% and see what they say. If they say no, you haven't lost anything by asking.
– TonyK
yesterday
Ask for 7.5% and see what they say. If they say no, you haven't lost anything by asking.
– TonyK
yesterday
2
2
@juniorCoder - sounds like your mind is made up. Good luck.
– Joe Strazzere
yesterday
@juniorCoder - sounds like your mind is made up. Good luck.
– Joe Strazzere
yesterday
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I would accept it as-is with no doubt.
Then you have no real basis to negotiate.
The power you have in a negotiation is the power to walk away. If you don't want to walk away, then you're bluffing - and while that might work, it's a heck of a risk - there's every chance they'll just pass you off for the next candidate.
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Why risk it?
You've got the job that you want to specialise in and at a company you would like to work for. You've got a salary offer equal to your current so you'll be no worse off but you'd be moving in the direction you'd want to be going.
You don't want to upset your potential employer, in this current stage you've got quite a lot to lose if this is definitely what you want to do.
I would join the company and maybe after another 6 months potentially ask for a raise when you've met the expected "must have skills".
You've said yourself that the valuation they have given you is fair so I'd take it and move in the right direction to follow your career prospect.
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Job offer includes whole new career possibilities, more perspective projects, interesting technology stack and much better benefits, I would accept it as-is with no doubt. It is a great opportunity for me.
They've offered you a package they are happy with, you are happy with it. In negotiation terms this is called a "win-win".
Personally I'd just take the offer than get involved in playing guessing games about what you may or may not be able to squeeze out of them.
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You can almost always ask for more money. Job offers are a negotiation after all.
But that doesn't mean that you should.
Negotiations are about value and risk, how valuable are you and how much are you willing to risk.
Your value is primarily based on supply and a demand. Someone with years(decades) of experience and specialized skills is likely to be in limited supply so their value will go up. Unfortunately, someone with 6 months experience is likely in large supply and may not have leverage to demand more. From the employer's perspective, if they can find plenty of other candidates with 6 months experience, why would they go above the reasonable salary they have already offered you.
You should start by considering the market you are in. Is there a limited supply of Junior Developers? Is your 6 months experience related to a technology that is in high demand or has very few practitioners locally? If so, your negotiating position could be stronger, if not your leverage is limited.
The last piece is the risk element. Neither side has leverage unless they can and would walk away. For you this means losing a job opportunity, for them this means finding another junior developer. You need to evaluate this from both sides when deciding whether to ask for more money and if so, how much.
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I would accept it as-is with no doubt.
Then you have no real basis to negotiate.
The power you have in a negotiation is the power to walk away. If you don't want to walk away, then you're bluffing - and while that might work, it's a heck of a risk - there's every chance they'll just pass you off for the next candidate.
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I would accept it as-is with no doubt.
Then you have no real basis to negotiate.
The power you have in a negotiation is the power to walk away. If you don't want to walk away, then you're bluffing - and while that might work, it's a heck of a risk - there's every chance they'll just pass you off for the next candidate.
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I would accept it as-is with no doubt.
Then you have no real basis to negotiate.
The power you have in a negotiation is the power to walk away. If you don't want to walk away, then you're bluffing - and while that might work, it's a heck of a risk - there's every chance they'll just pass you off for the next candidate.
I would accept it as-is with no doubt.
Then you have no real basis to negotiate.
The power you have in a negotiation is the power to walk away. If you don't want to walk away, then you're bluffing - and while that might work, it's a heck of a risk - there's every chance they'll just pass you off for the next candidate.
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Why risk it?
You've got the job that you want to specialise in and at a company you would like to work for. You've got a salary offer equal to your current so you'll be no worse off but you'd be moving in the direction you'd want to be going.
You don't want to upset your potential employer, in this current stage you've got quite a lot to lose if this is definitely what you want to do.
I would join the company and maybe after another 6 months potentially ask for a raise when you've met the expected "must have skills".
You've said yourself that the valuation they have given you is fair so I'd take it and move in the right direction to follow your career prospect.
add a comment |
up vote
5
down vote
Why risk it?
You've got the job that you want to specialise in and at a company you would like to work for. You've got a salary offer equal to your current so you'll be no worse off but you'd be moving in the direction you'd want to be going.
You don't want to upset your potential employer, in this current stage you've got quite a lot to lose if this is definitely what you want to do.
I would join the company and maybe after another 6 months potentially ask for a raise when you've met the expected "must have skills".
You've said yourself that the valuation they have given you is fair so I'd take it and move in the right direction to follow your career prospect.
add a comment |
up vote
5
down vote
up vote
5
down vote
Why risk it?
You've got the job that you want to specialise in and at a company you would like to work for. You've got a salary offer equal to your current so you'll be no worse off but you'd be moving in the direction you'd want to be going.
You don't want to upset your potential employer, in this current stage you've got quite a lot to lose if this is definitely what you want to do.
I would join the company and maybe after another 6 months potentially ask for a raise when you've met the expected "must have skills".
You've said yourself that the valuation they have given you is fair so I'd take it and move in the right direction to follow your career prospect.
Why risk it?
You've got the job that you want to specialise in and at a company you would like to work for. You've got a salary offer equal to your current so you'll be no worse off but you'd be moving in the direction you'd want to be going.
You don't want to upset your potential employer, in this current stage you've got quite a lot to lose if this is definitely what you want to do.
I would join the company and maybe after another 6 months potentially ask for a raise when you've met the expected "must have skills".
You've said yourself that the valuation they have given you is fair so I'd take it and move in the right direction to follow your career prospect.
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Job offer includes whole new career possibilities, more perspective projects, interesting technology stack and much better benefits, I would accept it as-is with no doubt. It is a great opportunity for me.
They've offered you a package they are happy with, you are happy with it. In negotiation terms this is called a "win-win".
Personally I'd just take the offer than get involved in playing guessing games about what you may or may not be able to squeeze out of them.
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
Job offer includes whole new career possibilities, more perspective projects, interesting technology stack and much better benefits, I would accept it as-is with no doubt. It is a great opportunity for me.
They've offered you a package they are happy with, you are happy with it. In negotiation terms this is called a "win-win".
Personally I'd just take the offer than get involved in playing guessing games about what you may or may not be able to squeeze out of them.
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up vote
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Job offer includes whole new career possibilities, more perspective projects, interesting technology stack and much better benefits, I would accept it as-is with no doubt. It is a great opportunity for me.
They've offered you a package they are happy with, you are happy with it. In negotiation terms this is called a "win-win".
Personally I'd just take the offer than get involved in playing guessing games about what you may or may not be able to squeeze out of them.
Job offer includes whole new career possibilities, more perspective projects, interesting technology stack and much better benefits, I would accept it as-is with no doubt. It is a great opportunity for me.
They've offered you a package they are happy with, you are happy with it. In negotiation terms this is called a "win-win".
Personally I'd just take the offer than get involved in playing guessing games about what you may or may not be able to squeeze out of them.
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You can almost always ask for more money. Job offers are a negotiation after all.
But that doesn't mean that you should.
Negotiations are about value and risk, how valuable are you and how much are you willing to risk.
Your value is primarily based on supply and a demand. Someone with years(decades) of experience and specialized skills is likely to be in limited supply so their value will go up. Unfortunately, someone with 6 months experience is likely in large supply and may not have leverage to demand more. From the employer's perspective, if they can find plenty of other candidates with 6 months experience, why would they go above the reasonable salary they have already offered you.
You should start by considering the market you are in. Is there a limited supply of Junior Developers? Is your 6 months experience related to a technology that is in high demand or has very few practitioners locally? If so, your negotiating position could be stronger, if not your leverage is limited.
The last piece is the risk element. Neither side has leverage unless they can and would walk away. For you this means losing a job opportunity, for them this means finding another junior developer. You need to evaluate this from both sides when deciding whether to ask for more money and if so, how much.
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You can almost always ask for more money. Job offers are a negotiation after all.
But that doesn't mean that you should.
Negotiations are about value and risk, how valuable are you and how much are you willing to risk.
Your value is primarily based on supply and a demand. Someone with years(decades) of experience and specialized skills is likely to be in limited supply so their value will go up. Unfortunately, someone with 6 months experience is likely in large supply and may not have leverage to demand more. From the employer's perspective, if they can find plenty of other candidates with 6 months experience, why would they go above the reasonable salary they have already offered you.
You should start by considering the market you are in. Is there a limited supply of Junior Developers? Is your 6 months experience related to a technology that is in high demand or has very few practitioners locally? If so, your negotiating position could be stronger, if not your leverage is limited.
The last piece is the risk element. Neither side has leverage unless they can and would walk away. For you this means losing a job opportunity, for them this means finding another junior developer. You need to evaluate this from both sides when deciding whether to ask for more money and if so, how much.
add a comment |
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You can almost always ask for more money. Job offers are a negotiation after all.
But that doesn't mean that you should.
Negotiations are about value and risk, how valuable are you and how much are you willing to risk.
Your value is primarily based on supply and a demand. Someone with years(decades) of experience and specialized skills is likely to be in limited supply so their value will go up. Unfortunately, someone with 6 months experience is likely in large supply and may not have leverage to demand more. From the employer's perspective, if they can find plenty of other candidates with 6 months experience, why would they go above the reasonable salary they have already offered you.
You should start by considering the market you are in. Is there a limited supply of Junior Developers? Is your 6 months experience related to a technology that is in high demand or has very few practitioners locally? If so, your negotiating position could be stronger, if not your leverage is limited.
The last piece is the risk element. Neither side has leverage unless they can and would walk away. For you this means losing a job opportunity, for them this means finding another junior developer. You need to evaluate this from both sides when deciding whether to ask for more money and if so, how much.
You can almost always ask for more money. Job offers are a negotiation after all.
But that doesn't mean that you should.
Negotiations are about value and risk, how valuable are you and how much are you willing to risk.
Your value is primarily based on supply and a demand. Someone with years(decades) of experience and specialized skills is likely to be in limited supply so their value will go up. Unfortunately, someone with 6 months experience is likely in large supply and may not have leverage to demand more. From the employer's perspective, if they can find plenty of other candidates with 6 months experience, why would they go above the reasonable salary they have already offered you.
You should start by considering the market you are in. Is there a limited supply of Junior Developers? Is your 6 months experience related to a technology that is in high demand or has very few practitioners locally? If so, your negotiating position could be stronger, if not your leverage is limited.
The last piece is the risk element. Neither side has leverage unless they can and would walk away. For you this means losing a job opportunity, for them this means finding another junior developer. You need to evaluate this from both sides when deciding whether to ask for more money and if so, how much.
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I would just ask what are the possibilities to change the pay in the future. For example in work I started AFTER yearly pay increase in company (so normally I would wait 10 months). But I negotiated a raise after my probation period.
– SZCZERZO KŁY
yesterday
There are revaluations twice a year. First contract is for 3 months.
– juniorCoder
yesterday
@juniorCoder Then that's perfect, you join them. You're no worse off, then if you can prove yourself then you can be reevaluated in 3 months time
– Twyxz
yesterday
Ask for 7.5% and see what they say. If they say no, you haven't lost anything by asking.
– TonyK
yesterday
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@juniorCoder - sounds like your mind is made up. Good luck.
– Joe Strazzere
yesterday