Longtable with repeating headers and horizontal rules
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I am trying to make a longtable, that has repeating headers. Also, each row has rules. In the second page, however, the rule repeats twice.It looks unpolished. How do I fix this?
MWE
documentclass[11pt, a4paper, oneside]{memoir}
usepackage{longtable}
usepackage{booktabs}
usepackage{array}
usepackage{arydshln}
setlengthdashlinedash{0.2pt}
setlengthdashlinegap{1.5pt}
setlengtharrayrulewidth{0.3pt}
begin{document}
begin{longtable}{l}
toprule
Title \
midrule
endfirsthead
toprule
Title \
midrule
endhead
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ bottomrule
end{longtable}
end{document}


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I am trying to make a longtable, that has repeating headers. Also, each row has rules. In the second page, however, the rule repeats twice.It looks unpolished. How do I fix this?
MWE
documentclass[11pt, a4paper, oneside]{memoir}
usepackage{longtable}
usepackage{booktabs}
usepackage{array}
usepackage{arydshln}
setlengthdashlinedash{0.2pt}
setlengthdashlinegap{1.5pt}
setlengtharrayrulewidth{0.3pt}
begin{document}
begin{longtable}{l}
toprule
Title \
midrule
endfirsthead
toprule
Title \
midrule
endhead
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ bottomrule
end{longtable}
end{document}


The Economist too uses rules

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This is a known feature oflongtableand has nothing to do witharray,booktabsormemoir, so I deleted the tags
– Christian Hupfer
Aug 20 '17 at 8:27
You should also ask yourself what exactly you're trying to achieve with all thosehddashlinedirectives. Thelongtablewill look a lot cleaner (or, to use your phrase, more polished) if all, or at least most, of these directives are simply omitted. Your readers will thank you.
– Mico
Aug 20 '17 at 8:33
Mico, The confusion comes from the MWE. My actual data is several columns wide. I have added a screen-shot. Do you still suggest that omitting rules will improve readability?
– AK16
Aug 20 '17 at 8:38
see answer for long table in tex.stackexchange.com/questions/387308/…
– Zarko
Aug 20 '17 at 8:46
@AK16 - Are you familiar with the Latin proverb, "Quod licet Iovis, non licet bovis"? Speaking for myself here, I doubt the table from The Economist magazine would be less legible had all dashed lines been omitted. :-)
– Mico
Aug 20 '17 at 8:55
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I am trying to make a longtable, that has repeating headers. Also, each row has rules. In the second page, however, the rule repeats twice.It looks unpolished. How do I fix this?
MWE
documentclass[11pt, a4paper, oneside]{memoir}
usepackage{longtable}
usepackage{booktabs}
usepackage{array}
usepackage{arydshln}
setlengthdashlinedash{0.2pt}
setlengthdashlinegap{1.5pt}
setlengtharrayrulewidth{0.3pt}
begin{document}
begin{longtable}{l}
toprule
Title \
midrule
endfirsthead
toprule
Title \
midrule
endhead
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ bottomrule
end{longtable}
end{document}


The Economist too uses rules

tables longtable
I am trying to make a longtable, that has repeating headers. Also, each row has rules. In the second page, however, the rule repeats twice.It looks unpolished. How do I fix this?
MWE
documentclass[11pt, a4paper, oneside]{memoir}
usepackage{longtable}
usepackage{booktabs}
usepackage{array}
usepackage{arydshln}
setlengthdashlinedash{0.2pt}
setlengthdashlinegap{1.5pt}
setlengtharrayrulewidth{0.3pt}
begin{document}
begin{longtable}{l}
toprule
Title \
midrule
endfirsthead
toprule
Title \
midrule
endhead
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ bottomrule
end{longtable}
end{document}


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This is a known feature oflongtableand has nothing to do witharray,booktabsormemoir, so I deleted the tags
– Christian Hupfer
Aug 20 '17 at 8:27
You should also ask yourself what exactly you're trying to achieve with all thosehddashlinedirectives. Thelongtablewill look a lot cleaner (or, to use your phrase, more polished) if all, or at least most, of these directives are simply omitted. Your readers will thank you.
– Mico
Aug 20 '17 at 8:33
Mico, The confusion comes from the MWE. My actual data is several columns wide. I have added a screen-shot. Do you still suggest that omitting rules will improve readability?
– AK16
Aug 20 '17 at 8:38
see answer for long table in tex.stackexchange.com/questions/387308/…
– Zarko
Aug 20 '17 at 8:46
@AK16 - Are you familiar with the Latin proverb, "Quod licet Iovis, non licet bovis"? Speaking for myself here, I doubt the table from The Economist magazine would be less legible had all dashed lines been omitted. :-)
– Mico
Aug 20 '17 at 8:55
|
show 4 more comments
This is a known feature oflongtableand has nothing to do witharray,booktabsormemoir, so I deleted the tags
– Christian Hupfer
Aug 20 '17 at 8:27
You should also ask yourself what exactly you're trying to achieve with all thosehddashlinedirectives. Thelongtablewill look a lot cleaner (or, to use your phrase, more polished) if all, or at least most, of these directives are simply omitted. Your readers will thank you.
– Mico
Aug 20 '17 at 8:33
Mico, The confusion comes from the MWE. My actual data is several columns wide. I have added a screen-shot. Do you still suggest that omitting rules will improve readability?
– AK16
Aug 20 '17 at 8:38
see answer for long table in tex.stackexchange.com/questions/387308/…
– Zarko
Aug 20 '17 at 8:46
@AK16 - Are you familiar with the Latin proverb, "Quod licet Iovis, non licet bovis"? Speaking for myself here, I doubt the table from The Economist magazine would be less legible had all dashed lines been omitted. :-)
– Mico
Aug 20 '17 at 8:55
This is a known feature of
longtable and has nothing to do with array, booktabs or memoir, so I deleted the tags– Christian Hupfer
Aug 20 '17 at 8:27
This is a known feature of
longtable and has nothing to do with array, booktabs or memoir, so I deleted the tags– Christian Hupfer
Aug 20 '17 at 8:27
You should also ask yourself what exactly you're trying to achieve with all those
hddashline directives. The longtable will look a lot cleaner (or, to use your phrase, more polished) if all, or at least most, of these directives are simply omitted. Your readers will thank you.– Mico
Aug 20 '17 at 8:33
You should also ask yourself what exactly you're trying to achieve with all those
hddashline directives. The longtable will look a lot cleaner (or, to use your phrase, more polished) if all, or at least most, of these directives are simply omitted. Your readers will thank you.– Mico
Aug 20 '17 at 8:33
Mico, The confusion comes from the MWE. My actual data is several columns wide. I have added a screen-shot. Do you still suggest that omitting rules will improve readability?
– AK16
Aug 20 '17 at 8:38
Mico, The confusion comes from the MWE. My actual data is several columns wide. I have added a screen-shot. Do you still suggest that omitting rules will improve readability?
– AK16
Aug 20 '17 at 8:38
see answer for long table in tex.stackexchange.com/questions/387308/…
– Zarko
Aug 20 '17 at 8:46
see answer for long table in tex.stackexchange.com/questions/387308/…
– Zarko
Aug 20 '17 at 8:46
@AK16 - Are you familiar with the Latin proverb, "Quod licet Iovis, non licet bovis"? Speaking for myself here, I doubt the table from The Economist magazine would be less legible had all dashed lines been omitted. :-)
– Mico
Aug 20 '17 at 8:55
@AK16 - Are you familiar with the Latin proverb, "Quod licet Iovis, non licet bovis"? Speaking for myself here, I doubt the table from The Economist magazine would be less legible had all dashed lines been omitted. :-)
– Mico
Aug 20 '17 at 8:55
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I kinda stumbled on a solution. It may have drawbacks but it works for me.
Adding these 2 lines removed the problem
setlength{aboverulesep}{0pt}
setlength{belowrulesep}{0pt}
The MWE now becomes
documentclass[11pt, a4paper, oneside]{memoir}
usepackage{longtable}
usepackage{booktabs}
usepackage{array}
usepackage{arydshln}
setlengthdashlinedash{0.2pt}
setlengthdashlinegap{1.5pt}
setlengtharrayrulewidth{0.3pt}
setlength{aboverulesep}{0pt}
setlength{belowrulesep}{0pt}
begin{document}
begin{longtable}{l}
toprule
Title \
midrule
endfirsthead
toprule
Title \
midrule
endhead
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ bottomrule
end{longtable}
end{document}
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at me it works fine withoutsetlength{aboverulesep}{0pt} setlength{belowrulesep}{0pt}. probably you have installed outdated packages. upgrade it! and not forget, thatlongtableneed to be compiled at least twice that it gain final format.
– Zarko
Jan 17 at 15:26
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I kinda stumbled on a solution. It may have drawbacks but it works for me.
Adding these 2 lines removed the problem
setlength{aboverulesep}{0pt}
setlength{belowrulesep}{0pt}
The MWE now becomes
documentclass[11pt, a4paper, oneside]{memoir}
usepackage{longtable}
usepackage{booktabs}
usepackage{array}
usepackage{arydshln}
setlengthdashlinedash{0.2pt}
setlengthdashlinegap{1.5pt}
setlengtharrayrulewidth{0.3pt}
setlength{aboverulesep}{0pt}
setlength{belowrulesep}{0pt}
begin{document}
begin{longtable}{l}
toprule
Title \
midrule
endfirsthead
toprule
Title \
midrule
endhead
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
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B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
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D \ hdashline
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B \ hdashline
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D \ hdashline
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B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ bottomrule
end{longtable}
end{document}
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at me it works fine withoutsetlength{aboverulesep}{0pt} setlength{belowrulesep}{0pt}. probably you have installed outdated packages. upgrade it! and not forget, thatlongtableneed to be compiled at least twice that it gain final format.
– Zarko
Jan 17 at 15:26
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
I kinda stumbled on a solution. It may have drawbacks but it works for me.
Adding these 2 lines removed the problem
setlength{aboverulesep}{0pt}
setlength{belowrulesep}{0pt}
The MWE now becomes
documentclass[11pt, a4paper, oneside]{memoir}
usepackage{longtable}
usepackage{booktabs}
usepackage{array}
usepackage{arydshln}
setlengthdashlinedash{0.2pt}
setlengthdashlinegap{1.5pt}
setlengtharrayrulewidth{0.3pt}
setlength{aboverulesep}{0pt}
setlength{belowrulesep}{0pt}
begin{document}
begin{longtable}{l}
toprule
Title \
midrule
endfirsthead
toprule
Title \
midrule
endhead
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ bottomrule
end{longtable}
end{document}
Page 2 output is shown:

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at me it works fine withoutsetlength{aboverulesep}{0pt} setlength{belowrulesep}{0pt}. probably you have installed outdated packages. upgrade it! and not forget, thatlongtableneed to be compiled at least twice that it gain final format.
– Zarko
Jan 17 at 15:26
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
I kinda stumbled on a solution. It may have drawbacks but it works for me.
Adding these 2 lines removed the problem
setlength{aboverulesep}{0pt}
setlength{belowrulesep}{0pt}
The MWE now becomes
documentclass[11pt, a4paper, oneside]{memoir}
usepackage{longtable}
usepackage{booktabs}
usepackage{array}
usepackage{arydshln}
setlengthdashlinedash{0.2pt}
setlengthdashlinegap{1.5pt}
setlengtharrayrulewidth{0.3pt}
setlength{aboverulesep}{0pt}
setlength{belowrulesep}{0pt}
begin{document}
begin{longtable}{l}
toprule
Title \
midrule
endfirsthead
toprule
Title \
midrule
endhead
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ bottomrule
end{longtable}
end{document}
Page 2 output is shown:

I kinda stumbled on a solution. It may have drawbacks but it works for me.
Adding these 2 lines removed the problem
setlength{aboverulesep}{0pt}
setlength{belowrulesep}{0pt}
The MWE now becomes
documentclass[11pt, a4paper, oneside]{memoir}
usepackage{longtable}
usepackage{booktabs}
usepackage{array}
usepackage{arydshln}
setlengthdashlinedash{0.2pt}
setlengthdashlinegap{1.5pt}
setlengtharrayrulewidth{0.3pt}
setlength{aboverulesep}{0pt}
setlength{belowrulesep}{0pt}
begin{document}
begin{longtable}{l}
toprule
Title \
midrule
endfirsthead
toprule
Title \
midrule
endhead
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ hdashline
D \ hdashline
A \ hdashline
B \ hdashline
C \ bottomrule
end{longtable}
end{document}
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answered Aug 20 '17 at 12:22
AK16
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at me it works fine withoutsetlength{aboverulesep}{0pt} setlength{belowrulesep}{0pt}. probably you have installed outdated packages. upgrade it! and not forget, thatlongtableneed to be compiled at least twice that it gain final format.
– Zarko
Jan 17 at 15:26
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at me it works fine withoutsetlength{aboverulesep}{0pt} setlength{belowrulesep}{0pt}. probably you have installed outdated packages. upgrade it! and not forget, thatlongtableneed to be compiled at least twice that it gain final format.
– Zarko
Jan 17 at 15:26
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at me it works fine without
setlength{aboverulesep}{0pt} setlength{belowrulesep}{0pt}. probably you have installed outdated packages. upgrade it! and not forget, that longtable need to be compiled at least twice that it gain final format.– Zarko
Jan 17 at 15:26
at me it works fine without
setlength{aboverulesep}{0pt} setlength{belowrulesep}{0pt}. probably you have installed outdated packages. upgrade it! and not forget, that longtable need to be compiled at least twice that it gain final format.– Zarko
Jan 17 at 15:26
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This is a known feature of
longtableand has nothing to do witharray,booktabsormemoir, so I deleted the tags– Christian Hupfer
Aug 20 '17 at 8:27
You should also ask yourself what exactly you're trying to achieve with all those
hddashlinedirectives. Thelongtablewill look a lot cleaner (or, to use your phrase, more polished) if all, or at least most, of these directives are simply omitted. Your readers will thank you.– Mico
Aug 20 '17 at 8:33
Mico, The confusion comes from the MWE. My actual data is several columns wide. I have added a screen-shot. Do you still suggest that omitting rules will improve readability?
– AK16
Aug 20 '17 at 8:38
see answer for long table in tex.stackexchange.com/questions/387308/…
– Zarko
Aug 20 '17 at 8:46
@AK16 - Are you familiar with the Latin proverb, "Quod licet Iovis, non licet bovis"? Speaking for myself here, I doubt the table from The Economist magazine would be less legible had all dashed lines been omitted. :-)
– Mico
Aug 20 '17 at 8:55