What would make radio transmission unfeasible on a planet?
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I am looking for a good reason to make radio communications on a planetary scale unfeasible or impossible. Short-range use is acceptable, but no transmissions should make it to orbit or over the horizon line. Hints on specific type and features of an atmospheres are welcome, as well as scenarios that involve no atmosphere.
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I am looking for a good reason to make radio communications on a planetary scale unfeasible or impossible. Short-range use is acceptable, but no transmissions should make it to orbit or over the horizon line. Hints on specific type and features of an atmospheres are welcome, as well as scenarios that involve no atmosphere.
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Hi, flexneck, welcome to Worldbuilding Stack Exchange! Nice question. What technology level would your civilization have? Do they have the tech levels of today, say, or of 1900?
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good point - i am wondering about conditions that would make radio transmissions unfeasible or impossible for any civilization level, ie what would the planetary and possibly local star system conditions have to be like for this to occur (extreme solar radiation comes to mind, but how would that actually look like...)
– flexneck
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Hi, @flexneck. Per your previous comment to HDE, I've edited my answer to try to be as broad as possible. Can you provide any additional details on the technology being used?
– Dan
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Possible duplicate of Can any astronomical phenomenon block/scramble all radio signals from a planet, without making it completely uninhabitable?
– Renan
1 hour ago
The question posed as a duplicate is specific to human-inhabited planets. This question asks for something broader (different atmospheres or none at all, implying that it could be an alien planet or one with domes/research/mining/etc). So the other answers may not be sufficient to answer this question.
– Cyn
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I am looking for a good reason to make radio communications on a planetary scale unfeasible or impossible. Short-range use is acceptable, but no transmissions should make it to orbit or over the horizon line. Hints on specific type and features of an atmospheres are welcome, as well as scenarios that involve no atmosphere.
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I am looking for a good reason to make radio communications on a planetary scale unfeasible or impossible. Short-range use is acceptable, but no transmissions should make it to orbit or over the horizon line. Hints on specific type and features of an atmospheres are welcome, as well as scenarios that involve no atmosphere.
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Hi, flexneck, welcome to Worldbuilding Stack Exchange! Nice question. What technology level would your civilization have? Do they have the tech levels of today, say, or of 1900?
– HDE 226868♦
1 hour ago
good point - i am wondering about conditions that would make radio transmissions unfeasible or impossible for any civilization level, ie what would the planetary and possibly local star system conditions have to be like for this to occur (extreme solar radiation comes to mind, but how would that actually look like...)
– flexneck
1 hour ago
Hi, @flexneck. Per your previous comment to HDE, I've edited my answer to try to be as broad as possible. Can you provide any additional details on the technology being used?
– Dan
1 hour ago
Possible duplicate of Can any astronomical phenomenon block/scramble all radio signals from a planet, without making it completely uninhabitable?
– Renan
1 hour ago
The question posed as a duplicate is specific to human-inhabited planets. This question asks for something broader (different atmospheres or none at all, implying that it could be an alien planet or one with domes/research/mining/etc). So the other answers may not be sufficient to answer this question.
– Cyn
27 mins ago
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Hi, flexneck, welcome to Worldbuilding Stack Exchange! Nice question. What technology level would your civilization have? Do they have the tech levels of today, say, or of 1900?
– HDE 226868♦
1 hour ago
good point - i am wondering about conditions that would make radio transmissions unfeasible or impossible for any civilization level, ie what would the planetary and possibly local star system conditions have to be like for this to occur (extreme solar radiation comes to mind, but how would that actually look like...)
– flexneck
1 hour ago
Hi, @flexneck. Per your previous comment to HDE, I've edited my answer to try to be as broad as possible. Can you provide any additional details on the technology being used?
– Dan
1 hour ago
Possible duplicate of Can any astronomical phenomenon block/scramble all radio signals from a planet, without making it completely uninhabitable?
– Renan
1 hour ago
The question posed as a duplicate is specific to human-inhabited planets. This question asks for something broader (different atmospheres or none at all, implying that it could be an alien planet or one with domes/research/mining/etc). So the other answers may not be sufficient to answer this question.
– Cyn
27 mins ago
Hi, flexneck, welcome to Worldbuilding Stack Exchange! Nice question. What technology level would your civilization have? Do they have the tech levels of today, say, or of 1900?
– HDE 226868♦
1 hour ago
Hi, flexneck, welcome to Worldbuilding Stack Exchange! Nice question. What technology level would your civilization have? Do they have the tech levels of today, say, or of 1900?
– HDE 226868♦
1 hour ago
good point - i am wondering about conditions that would make radio transmissions unfeasible or impossible for any civilization level, ie what would the planetary and possibly local star system conditions have to be like for this to occur (extreme solar radiation comes to mind, but how would that actually look like...)
– flexneck
1 hour ago
good point - i am wondering about conditions that would make radio transmissions unfeasible or impossible for any civilization level, ie what would the planetary and possibly local star system conditions have to be like for this to occur (extreme solar radiation comes to mind, but how would that actually look like...)
– flexneck
1 hour ago
Hi, @flexneck. Per your previous comment to HDE, I've edited my answer to try to be as broad as possible. Can you provide any additional details on the technology being used?
– Dan
1 hour ago
Hi, @flexneck. Per your previous comment to HDE, I've edited my answer to try to be as broad as possible. Can you provide any additional details on the technology being used?
– Dan
1 hour ago
Possible duplicate of Can any astronomical phenomenon block/scramble all radio signals from a planet, without making it completely uninhabitable?
– Renan
1 hour ago
Possible duplicate of Can any astronomical phenomenon block/scramble all radio signals from a planet, without making it completely uninhabitable?
– Renan
1 hour ago
The question posed as a duplicate is specific to human-inhabited planets. This question asks for something broader (different atmospheres or none at all, implying that it could be an alien planet or one with domes/research/mining/etc). So the other answers may not be sufficient to answer this question.
– Cyn
27 mins ago
The question posed as a duplicate is specific to human-inhabited planets. This question asks for something broader (different atmospheres or none at all, implying that it could be an alien planet or one with domes/research/mining/etc). So the other answers may not be sufficient to answer this question.
– Cyn
27 mins ago
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First, before people start yelling "solar storms!" just bear in mind that even the craziest geomagnetic phenomena might not be effective against lower frequencies traveling long distances.
How this question is best answered depends on the forms of communication we're talking about. If you limit your technology to specific forms of communication (i.e., what frequencies we're dealing with), the constraints are easier to define, and it's easier to give you more specifics. (Microwave frequencies behave differently than FM, etc.)
No transmissions should make it to orbit or over the horizon line.
As your question implies, you are already aware that some forms of radio waves will reach distances beyond the line-of-sight of the transmitter because of how they "bounce" off the ionosphere. But they can also travel long distances as ground waves. This Wikipedia article has some good info.
Generally speaking, in theory, I suppose if you had a ridiculously ionized layer of atmosphere, it could conceivably block most if not all signals from reaching orbit, so that solves half of your problem. (The science is a bit less simple than I'm making it sound, but that's the basic idea.)
As for the other half of your problem, I would consider using terrain as a way to limit your range. Bodies of water and rugged, mountainous landscapes absorb a lot of EM radiation.
Note also that some weather can actually work against you and improve the signal range.
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A mars sized planet would be more difficult for radio because of the enhanced curvature of the surface. A planet with an atmosphere thick with metallic dust also bad.. especially if that meant frequent electrical storms. A planet with a weak magnetic field.. allowing solar particles to penetrate the atmosphere.. basically mars.. with a slightly thicker atmosphere.
Mars' features have certainly crossed my mind, and you make excellent points - but none of this makes the use of radio impossible, just less convenient. otherwise we wouldn't be looking at pics from the various rovers..-)
– flexneck
1 hour ago
@flexneck true.. I missed your point about signals leaving the planet. What about orbiting dust? A large planet with a thick dusty atmosphere surrounded by a thick cloud of orbiting dust.. so.. a newly formed planet say.
– Richard
1 hour ago
again, that would just mean tuning for ideal or even just minimal passage, and you could communicate with a satellite in a higher orbit than the dust
– flexneck
1 hour ago
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What would make radio transmission unfeasible on a planet?
Fierce Geomagnetic Storms.
A non lower-atmospheric solution is a very active sun that releases more or less continuous flares which beat on the upper atmosphere - as they do on Earth in an eleven year cycle - but if the ones squirting out from your star are more or less continuous, then they'd fit the bill.
- There's the storm of March 9, 1989 which disrupted radio stations - some believed it had been done by the Russians and was the start of something more sinister (it was during the cold war).
Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License: Wikipedia 2018.
There's a nice chart on Wikipedia about their classifications and how big they get on Earth (a bit like earthquake classifications).
There's a brief bit about potential effects on animals when it gets realy bad which may be worth noting.
this is a good start for hypothetical continueous solar flares, a valid solution - now, how to explain such a phenomenon?
– flexneck
16 mins ago
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To keep the signals from reaching space you would need a charged upper atmosphere that is strong enough to block most signals. This may result in some aurora borealis if my understanding is correct, but it's pretty set dressing at least.
The problem is that radio waves can travel through the ground too, so if you want to limit your communications range you need to alter the planets surface composition. Ever hear of Aokigahara? It's the place where Logan Paul screwed over his whole career. Well that place blocks cell signals because of the hill's rich iron composition. Make your planet rich in iron and that will fix most of your problems.
However, the signal might still bounce between the ground and atmosphere and the high charge might cause nothing but radio static everywhere, so some hand waving or contrivium may be in order.
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First, before people start yelling "solar storms!" just bear in mind that even the craziest geomagnetic phenomena might not be effective against lower frequencies traveling long distances.
How this question is best answered depends on the forms of communication we're talking about. If you limit your technology to specific forms of communication (i.e., what frequencies we're dealing with), the constraints are easier to define, and it's easier to give you more specifics. (Microwave frequencies behave differently than FM, etc.)
No transmissions should make it to orbit or over the horizon line.
As your question implies, you are already aware that some forms of radio waves will reach distances beyond the line-of-sight of the transmitter because of how they "bounce" off the ionosphere. But they can also travel long distances as ground waves. This Wikipedia article has some good info.
Generally speaking, in theory, I suppose if you had a ridiculously ionized layer of atmosphere, it could conceivably block most if not all signals from reaching orbit, so that solves half of your problem. (The science is a bit less simple than I'm making it sound, but that's the basic idea.)
As for the other half of your problem, I would consider using terrain as a way to limit your range. Bodies of water and rugged, mountainous landscapes absorb a lot of EM radiation.
Note also that some weather can actually work against you and improve the signal range.
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First, before people start yelling "solar storms!" just bear in mind that even the craziest geomagnetic phenomena might not be effective against lower frequencies traveling long distances.
How this question is best answered depends on the forms of communication we're talking about. If you limit your technology to specific forms of communication (i.e., what frequencies we're dealing with), the constraints are easier to define, and it's easier to give you more specifics. (Microwave frequencies behave differently than FM, etc.)
No transmissions should make it to orbit or over the horizon line.
As your question implies, you are already aware that some forms of radio waves will reach distances beyond the line-of-sight of the transmitter because of how they "bounce" off the ionosphere. But they can also travel long distances as ground waves. This Wikipedia article has some good info.
Generally speaking, in theory, I suppose if you had a ridiculously ionized layer of atmosphere, it could conceivably block most if not all signals from reaching orbit, so that solves half of your problem. (The science is a bit less simple than I'm making it sound, but that's the basic idea.)
As for the other half of your problem, I would consider using terrain as a way to limit your range. Bodies of water and rugged, mountainous landscapes absorb a lot of EM radiation.
Note also that some weather can actually work against you and improve the signal range.
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First, before people start yelling "solar storms!" just bear in mind that even the craziest geomagnetic phenomena might not be effective against lower frequencies traveling long distances.
How this question is best answered depends on the forms of communication we're talking about. If you limit your technology to specific forms of communication (i.e., what frequencies we're dealing with), the constraints are easier to define, and it's easier to give you more specifics. (Microwave frequencies behave differently than FM, etc.)
No transmissions should make it to orbit or over the horizon line.
As your question implies, you are already aware that some forms of radio waves will reach distances beyond the line-of-sight of the transmitter because of how they "bounce" off the ionosphere. But they can also travel long distances as ground waves. This Wikipedia article has some good info.
Generally speaking, in theory, I suppose if you had a ridiculously ionized layer of atmosphere, it could conceivably block most if not all signals from reaching orbit, so that solves half of your problem. (The science is a bit less simple than I'm making it sound, but that's the basic idea.)
As for the other half of your problem, I would consider using terrain as a way to limit your range. Bodies of water and rugged, mountainous landscapes absorb a lot of EM radiation.
Note also that some weather can actually work against you and improve the signal range.
First, before people start yelling "solar storms!" just bear in mind that even the craziest geomagnetic phenomena might not be effective against lower frequencies traveling long distances.
How this question is best answered depends on the forms of communication we're talking about. If you limit your technology to specific forms of communication (i.e., what frequencies we're dealing with), the constraints are easier to define, and it's easier to give you more specifics. (Microwave frequencies behave differently than FM, etc.)
No transmissions should make it to orbit or over the horizon line.
As your question implies, you are already aware that some forms of radio waves will reach distances beyond the line-of-sight of the transmitter because of how they "bounce" off the ionosphere. But they can also travel long distances as ground waves. This Wikipedia article has some good info.
Generally speaking, in theory, I suppose if you had a ridiculously ionized layer of atmosphere, it could conceivably block most if not all signals from reaching orbit, so that solves half of your problem. (The science is a bit less simple than I'm making it sound, but that's the basic idea.)
As for the other half of your problem, I would consider using terrain as a way to limit your range. Bodies of water and rugged, mountainous landscapes absorb a lot of EM radiation.
Note also that some weather can actually work against you and improve the signal range.
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A mars sized planet would be more difficult for radio because of the enhanced curvature of the surface. A planet with an atmosphere thick with metallic dust also bad.. especially if that meant frequent electrical storms. A planet with a weak magnetic field.. allowing solar particles to penetrate the atmosphere.. basically mars.. with a slightly thicker atmosphere.
Mars' features have certainly crossed my mind, and you make excellent points - but none of this makes the use of radio impossible, just less convenient. otherwise we wouldn't be looking at pics from the various rovers..-)
– flexneck
1 hour ago
@flexneck true.. I missed your point about signals leaving the planet. What about orbiting dust? A large planet with a thick dusty atmosphere surrounded by a thick cloud of orbiting dust.. so.. a newly formed planet say.
– Richard
1 hour ago
again, that would just mean tuning for ideal or even just minimal passage, and you could communicate with a satellite in a higher orbit than the dust
– flexneck
1 hour ago
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A mars sized planet would be more difficult for radio because of the enhanced curvature of the surface. A planet with an atmosphere thick with metallic dust also bad.. especially if that meant frequent electrical storms. A planet with a weak magnetic field.. allowing solar particles to penetrate the atmosphere.. basically mars.. with a slightly thicker atmosphere.
Mars' features have certainly crossed my mind, and you make excellent points - but none of this makes the use of radio impossible, just less convenient. otherwise we wouldn't be looking at pics from the various rovers..-)
– flexneck
1 hour ago
@flexneck true.. I missed your point about signals leaving the planet. What about orbiting dust? A large planet with a thick dusty atmosphere surrounded by a thick cloud of orbiting dust.. so.. a newly formed planet say.
– Richard
1 hour ago
again, that would just mean tuning for ideal or even just minimal passage, and you could communicate with a satellite in a higher orbit than the dust
– flexneck
1 hour ago
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A mars sized planet would be more difficult for radio because of the enhanced curvature of the surface. A planet with an atmosphere thick with metallic dust also bad.. especially if that meant frequent electrical storms. A planet with a weak magnetic field.. allowing solar particles to penetrate the atmosphere.. basically mars.. with a slightly thicker atmosphere.
A mars sized planet would be more difficult for radio because of the enhanced curvature of the surface. A planet with an atmosphere thick with metallic dust also bad.. especially if that meant frequent electrical storms. A planet with a weak magnetic field.. allowing solar particles to penetrate the atmosphere.. basically mars.. with a slightly thicker atmosphere.
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Mars' features have certainly crossed my mind, and you make excellent points - but none of this makes the use of radio impossible, just less convenient. otherwise we wouldn't be looking at pics from the various rovers..-)
– flexneck
1 hour ago
@flexneck true.. I missed your point about signals leaving the planet. What about orbiting dust? A large planet with a thick dusty atmosphere surrounded by a thick cloud of orbiting dust.. so.. a newly formed planet say.
– Richard
1 hour ago
again, that would just mean tuning for ideal or even just minimal passage, and you could communicate with a satellite in a higher orbit than the dust
– flexneck
1 hour ago
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Mars' features have certainly crossed my mind, and you make excellent points - but none of this makes the use of radio impossible, just less convenient. otherwise we wouldn't be looking at pics from the various rovers..-)
– flexneck
1 hour ago
@flexneck true.. I missed your point about signals leaving the planet. What about orbiting dust? A large planet with a thick dusty atmosphere surrounded by a thick cloud of orbiting dust.. so.. a newly formed planet say.
– Richard
1 hour ago
again, that would just mean tuning for ideal or even just minimal passage, and you could communicate with a satellite in a higher orbit than the dust
– flexneck
1 hour ago
Mars' features have certainly crossed my mind, and you make excellent points - but none of this makes the use of radio impossible, just less convenient. otherwise we wouldn't be looking at pics from the various rovers..-)
– flexneck
1 hour ago
Mars' features have certainly crossed my mind, and you make excellent points - but none of this makes the use of radio impossible, just less convenient. otherwise we wouldn't be looking at pics from the various rovers..-)
– flexneck
1 hour ago
@flexneck true.. I missed your point about signals leaving the planet. What about orbiting dust? A large planet with a thick dusty atmosphere surrounded by a thick cloud of orbiting dust.. so.. a newly formed planet say.
– Richard
1 hour ago
@flexneck true.. I missed your point about signals leaving the planet. What about orbiting dust? A large planet with a thick dusty atmosphere surrounded by a thick cloud of orbiting dust.. so.. a newly formed planet say.
– Richard
1 hour ago
again, that would just mean tuning for ideal or even just minimal passage, and you could communicate with a satellite in a higher orbit than the dust
– flexneck
1 hour ago
again, that would just mean tuning for ideal or even just minimal passage, and you could communicate with a satellite in a higher orbit than the dust
– flexneck
1 hour ago
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What would make radio transmission unfeasible on a planet?
Fierce Geomagnetic Storms.
A non lower-atmospheric solution is a very active sun that releases more or less continuous flares which beat on the upper atmosphere - as they do on Earth in an eleven year cycle - but if the ones squirting out from your star are more or less continuous, then they'd fit the bill.
- There's the storm of March 9, 1989 which disrupted radio stations - some believed it had been done by the Russians and was the start of something more sinister (it was during the cold war).
Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License: Wikipedia 2018.
There's a nice chart on Wikipedia about their classifications and how big they get on Earth (a bit like earthquake classifications).
There's a brief bit about potential effects on animals when it gets realy bad which may be worth noting.
this is a good start for hypothetical continueous solar flares, a valid solution - now, how to explain such a phenomenon?
– flexneck
16 mins ago
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What would make radio transmission unfeasible on a planet?
Fierce Geomagnetic Storms.
A non lower-atmospheric solution is a very active sun that releases more or less continuous flares which beat on the upper atmosphere - as they do on Earth in an eleven year cycle - but if the ones squirting out from your star are more or less continuous, then they'd fit the bill.
- There's the storm of March 9, 1989 which disrupted radio stations - some believed it had been done by the Russians and was the start of something more sinister (it was during the cold war).
Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License: Wikipedia 2018.
There's a nice chart on Wikipedia about their classifications and how big they get on Earth (a bit like earthquake classifications).
There's a brief bit about potential effects on animals when it gets realy bad which may be worth noting.
this is a good start for hypothetical continueous solar flares, a valid solution - now, how to explain such a phenomenon?
– flexneck
16 mins ago
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What would make radio transmission unfeasible on a planet?
Fierce Geomagnetic Storms.
A non lower-atmospheric solution is a very active sun that releases more or less continuous flares which beat on the upper atmosphere - as they do on Earth in an eleven year cycle - but if the ones squirting out from your star are more or less continuous, then they'd fit the bill.
- There's the storm of March 9, 1989 which disrupted radio stations - some believed it had been done by the Russians and was the start of something more sinister (it was during the cold war).
Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License: Wikipedia 2018.
There's a nice chart on Wikipedia about their classifications and how big they get on Earth (a bit like earthquake classifications).
There's a brief bit about potential effects on animals when it gets realy bad which may be worth noting.
What would make radio transmission unfeasible on a planet?
Fierce Geomagnetic Storms.
A non lower-atmospheric solution is a very active sun that releases more or less continuous flares which beat on the upper atmosphere - as they do on Earth in an eleven year cycle - but if the ones squirting out from your star are more or less continuous, then they'd fit the bill.
- There's the storm of March 9, 1989 which disrupted radio stations - some believed it had been done by the Russians and was the start of something more sinister (it was during the cold war).
Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License: Wikipedia 2018.
There's a nice chart on Wikipedia about their classifications and how big they get on Earth (a bit like earthquake classifications).
There's a brief bit about potential effects on animals when it gets realy bad which may be worth noting.
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this is a good start for hypothetical continueous solar flares, a valid solution - now, how to explain such a phenomenon?
– flexneck
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this is a good start for hypothetical continueous solar flares, a valid solution - now, how to explain such a phenomenon?
– flexneck
16 mins ago
this is a good start for hypothetical continueous solar flares, a valid solution - now, how to explain such a phenomenon?
– flexneck
16 mins ago
this is a good start for hypothetical continueous solar flares, a valid solution - now, how to explain such a phenomenon?
– flexneck
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To keep the signals from reaching space you would need a charged upper atmosphere that is strong enough to block most signals. This may result in some aurora borealis if my understanding is correct, but it's pretty set dressing at least.
The problem is that radio waves can travel through the ground too, so if you want to limit your communications range you need to alter the planets surface composition. Ever hear of Aokigahara? It's the place where Logan Paul screwed over his whole career. Well that place blocks cell signals because of the hill's rich iron composition. Make your planet rich in iron and that will fix most of your problems.
However, the signal might still bounce between the ground and atmosphere and the high charge might cause nothing but radio static everywhere, so some hand waving or contrivium may be in order.
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To keep the signals from reaching space you would need a charged upper atmosphere that is strong enough to block most signals. This may result in some aurora borealis if my understanding is correct, but it's pretty set dressing at least.
The problem is that radio waves can travel through the ground too, so if you want to limit your communications range you need to alter the planets surface composition. Ever hear of Aokigahara? It's the place where Logan Paul screwed over his whole career. Well that place blocks cell signals because of the hill's rich iron composition. Make your planet rich in iron and that will fix most of your problems.
However, the signal might still bounce between the ground and atmosphere and the high charge might cause nothing but radio static everywhere, so some hand waving or contrivium may be in order.
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up vote
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To keep the signals from reaching space you would need a charged upper atmosphere that is strong enough to block most signals. This may result in some aurora borealis if my understanding is correct, but it's pretty set dressing at least.
The problem is that radio waves can travel through the ground too, so if you want to limit your communications range you need to alter the planets surface composition. Ever hear of Aokigahara? It's the place where Logan Paul screwed over his whole career. Well that place blocks cell signals because of the hill's rich iron composition. Make your planet rich in iron and that will fix most of your problems.
However, the signal might still bounce between the ground and atmosphere and the high charge might cause nothing but radio static everywhere, so some hand waving or contrivium may be in order.
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To keep the signals from reaching space you would need a charged upper atmosphere that is strong enough to block most signals. This may result in some aurora borealis if my understanding is correct, but it's pretty set dressing at least.
The problem is that radio waves can travel through the ground too, so if you want to limit your communications range you need to alter the planets surface composition. Ever hear of Aokigahara? It's the place where Logan Paul screwed over his whole career. Well that place blocks cell signals because of the hill's rich iron composition. Make your planet rich in iron and that will fix most of your problems.
However, the signal might still bounce between the ground and atmosphere and the high charge might cause nothing but radio static everywhere, so some hand waving or contrivium may be in order.
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Hi, flexneck, welcome to Worldbuilding Stack Exchange! Nice question. What technology level would your civilization have? Do they have the tech levels of today, say, or of 1900?
– HDE 226868♦
1 hour ago
good point - i am wondering about conditions that would make radio transmissions unfeasible or impossible for any civilization level, ie what would the planetary and possibly local star system conditions have to be like for this to occur (extreme solar radiation comes to mind, but how would that actually look like...)
– flexneck
1 hour ago
Hi, @flexneck. Per your previous comment to HDE, I've edited my answer to try to be as broad as possible. Can you provide any additional details on the technology being used?
– Dan
1 hour ago
Possible duplicate of Can any astronomical phenomenon block/scramble all radio signals from a planet, without making it completely uninhabitable?
– Renan
1 hour ago
The question posed as a duplicate is specific to human-inhabited planets. This question asks for something broader (different atmospheres or none at all, implying that it could be an alien planet or one with domes/research/mining/etc). So the other answers may not be sufficient to answer this question.
– Cyn
27 mins ago