Material for weapons and tools in a magnetic field
What material for weapons and tools would a tribal/medieval society use if there was a magnetic field preventing the use of iron? The iron would be attracted by the ground, obviously. It can`t be used for arrows for example as they would not get to far.
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What material for weapons and tools would a tribal/medieval society use if there was a magnetic field preventing the use of iron? The iron would be attracted by the ground, obviously. It can`t be used for arrows for example as they would not get to far.
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I don't really understand how a planetary magnetic field could 'prevent' the use of iron. What do you mean by prevent? Does it rust or explode or break or simply fade away?
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Does this mean that no metals that are affected by magnets can be used? Can they even be used to make other alloys? Because not all iron based steels can be affected by magnets.
– K Mo
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I thought all iron based materials are attracted by the magnets.
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What material for weapons and tools would a tribal/medieval society use if there was a magnetic field preventing the use of iron? The iron would be attracted by the ground, obviously. It can`t be used for arrows for example as they would not get to far.
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What material for weapons and tools would a tribal/medieval society use if there was a magnetic field preventing the use of iron? The iron would be attracted by the ground, obviously. It can`t be used for arrows for example as they would not get to far.
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I don't really understand how a planetary magnetic field could 'prevent' the use of iron. What do you mean by prevent? Does it rust or explode or break or simply fade away?
– kineticcrusher
1 hour ago
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Does this mean that no metals that are affected by magnets can be used? Can they even be used to make other alloys? Because not all iron based steels can be affected by magnets.
– K Mo
1 hour ago
I thought all iron based materials are attracted by the magnets.
– Edward Constantin
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I don't really understand how a planetary magnetic field could 'prevent' the use of iron. What do you mean by prevent? Does it rust or explode or break or simply fade away?
– kineticcrusher
1 hour ago
1
Does this mean that no metals that are affected by magnets can be used? Can they even be used to make other alloys? Because not all iron based steels can be affected by magnets.
– K Mo
1 hour ago
I thought all iron based materials are attracted by the magnets.
– Edward Constantin
1 hour ago
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I don't really understand how a planetary magnetic field could 'prevent' the use of iron. What do you mean by prevent? Does it rust or explode or break or simply fade away?
– kineticcrusher
1 hour ago
I don't really understand how a planetary magnetic field could 'prevent' the use of iron. What do you mean by prevent? Does it rust or explode or break or simply fade away?
– kineticcrusher
1 hour ago
1
1
Does this mean that no metals that are affected by magnets can be used? Can they even be used to make other alloys? Because not all iron based steels can be affected by magnets.
– K Mo
1 hour ago
Does this mean that no metals that are affected by magnets can be used? Can they even be used to make other alloys? Because not all iron based steels can be affected by magnets.
– K Mo
1 hour ago
I thought all iron based materials are attracted by the magnets.
– Edward Constantin
1 hour ago
I thought all iron based materials are attracted by the magnets.
– Edward Constantin
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Earth's history is filled with non-magnetic weapons and tools. The Iron Age started around the beginning of the Christian Era, and was named for the increasing use of iron in tools and weapons -- before that, bronze, copper, wood and stone did the same jobs, perhaps not quite as well, but well enough to do the job for many centuries.
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Ceramic knifes would be cool:
A ceramic knife is a knife designed with a ceramic blade typically made from zirconium dioxide (ZrO2; also known as zirconia). These knife blades are usually produced through the dry-pressing and firing of powdered zirconia using solid-state sintering.
(Wikipedia)
I'm not sure if this technology is feasible for a medieval society - but its fiction, so why not?
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Well, stone knives have been a thing for a couple years now. Chip away at a pot shard and you should have a reasonable "ceramic knife"!
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Stick with bronze.
You may have heard of the bronze age, a time in which all metal tools were made out of bronze (not iron or steel). Bronze is a non-magnetic metal alloy used in human history to make tools, and weapons, and pretty much anything you would make out of iron.
Bronze is a simple historically friendly answer to a substance that can easily be used in a strong magnetic field.
After the bronze age, a civilization might proceed directly to the plastics age if iron is not feasible.
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Use whatever materials you want:
As you say:
The iron would be attracted by the ground
The thing is that arrows already are attracted to the ground - by gravity. You have to ask just how strong this magnetic field must be to noticeably deflect arrows.
Some experiments have been done on this with bullets including by the Mythbusters but they used non-ferrous ammunition.
The following video however shows an experiment with a powerful neodymium magnet and a steel ball from a low-powered air rifle. There is some deflection but they fire very close to the magnet and I don't suppose your landscape is made of neodymium.
https://youtu.be/pXDLGNKoR2c?t=279
Firing near a the world's most powerful MRI machine that has a 45-ton magnet and generates a 9.4-Tesla magnetic field would definitely deflect or even stop an arrow but there's nowhere to plug one in during medieval times.
The ground would be very magnetic, basically making every iron object much heavier. I think they could use some iron melee weapons in this case if they are very strong
– Edward Constantin
45 mins ago
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Let's say arrows are 5 feet above the ground when fired, then nothing short of a multi-Tesla MRI machine will deflect them appreciably. Incidentally the Earths magnetic field is about 10 micro Teslas
– chasly from UK
40 mins ago
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Earth's history is filled with non-magnetic weapons and tools. The Iron Age started around the beginning of the Christian Era, and was named for the increasing use of iron in tools and weapons -- before that, bronze, copper, wood and stone did the same jobs, perhaps not quite as well, but well enough to do the job for many centuries.
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Earth's history is filled with non-magnetic weapons and tools. The Iron Age started around the beginning of the Christian Era, and was named for the increasing use of iron in tools and weapons -- before that, bronze, copper, wood and stone did the same jobs, perhaps not quite as well, but well enough to do the job for many centuries.
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Earth's history is filled with non-magnetic weapons and tools. The Iron Age started around the beginning of the Christian Era, and was named for the increasing use of iron in tools and weapons -- before that, bronze, copper, wood and stone did the same jobs, perhaps not quite as well, but well enough to do the job for many centuries.
Earth's history is filled with non-magnetic weapons and tools. The Iron Age started around the beginning of the Christian Era, and was named for the increasing use of iron in tools and weapons -- before that, bronze, copper, wood and stone did the same jobs, perhaps not quite as well, but well enough to do the job for many centuries.
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Ceramic knifes would be cool:
A ceramic knife is a knife designed with a ceramic blade typically made from zirconium dioxide (ZrO2; also known as zirconia). These knife blades are usually produced through the dry-pressing and firing of powdered zirconia using solid-state sintering.
(Wikipedia)
I'm not sure if this technology is feasible for a medieval society - but its fiction, so why not?
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Well, stone knives have been a thing for a couple years now. Chip away at a pot shard and you should have a reasonable "ceramic knife"!
– elemtilas
44 mins ago
add a comment |
Ceramic knifes would be cool:
A ceramic knife is a knife designed with a ceramic blade typically made from zirconium dioxide (ZrO2; also known as zirconia). These knife blades are usually produced through the dry-pressing and firing of powdered zirconia using solid-state sintering.
(Wikipedia)
I'm not sure if this technology is feasible for a medieval society - but its fiction, so why not?
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Well, stone knives have been a thing for a couple years now. Chip away at a pot shard and you should have a reasonable "ceramic knife"!
– elemtilas
44 mins ago
add a comment |
Ceramic knifes would be cool:
A ceramic knife is a knife designed with a ceramic blade typically made from zirconium dioxide (ZrO2; also known as zirconia). These knife blades are usually produced through the dry-pressing and firing of powdered zirconia using solid-state sintering.
(Wikipedia)
I'm not sure if this technology is feasible for a medieval society - but its fiction, so why not?
New contributor
Ceramic knifes would be cool:
A ceramic knife is a knife designed with a ceramic blade typically made from zirconium dioxide (ZrO2; also known as zirconia). These knife blades are usually produced through the dry-pressing and firing of powdered zirconia using solid-state sintering.
(Wikipedia)
I'm not sure if this technology is feasible for a medieval society - but its fiction, so why not?
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Well, stone knives have been a thing for a couple years now. Chip away at a pot shard and you should have a reasonable "ceramic knife"!
– elemtilas
44 mins ago
add a comment |
Well, stone knives have been a thing for a couple years now. Chip away at a pot shard and you should have a reasonable "ceramic knife"!
– elemtilas
44 mins ago
Well, stone knives have been a thing for a couple years now. Chip away at a pot shard and you should have a reasonable "ceramic knife"!
– elemtilas
44 mins ago
Well, stone knives have been a thing for a couple years now. Chip away at a pot shard and you should have a reasonable "ceramic knife"!
– elemtilas
44 mins ago
add a comment |
Stick with bronze.
You may have heard of the bronze age, a time in which all metal tools were made out of bronze (not iron or steel). Bronze is a non-magnetic metal alloy used in human history to make tools, and weapons, and pretty much anything you would make out of iron.
Bronze is a simple historically friendly answer to a substance that can easily be used in a strong magnetic field.
After the bronze age, a civilization might proceed directly to the plastics age if iron is not feasible.
add a comment |
Stick with bronze.
You may have heard of the bronze age, a time in which all metal tools were made out of bronze (not iron or steel). Bronze is a non-magnetic metal alloy used in human history to make tools, and weapons, and pretty much anything you would make out of iron.
Bronze is a simple historically friendly answer to a substance that can easily be used in a strong magnetic field.
After the bronze age, a civilization might proceed directly to the plastics age if iron is not feasible.
add a comment |
Stick with bronze.
You may have heard of the bronze age, a time in which all metal tools were made out of bronze (not iron or steel). Bronze is a non-magnetic metal alloy used in human history to make tools, and weapons, and pretty much anything you would make out of iron.
Bronze is a simple historically friendly answer to a substance that can easily be used in a strong magnetic field.
After the bronze age, a civilization might proceed directly to the plastics age if iron is not feasible.
Stick with bronze.
You may have heard of the bronze age, a time in which all metal tools were made out of bronze (not iron or steel). Bronze is a non-magnetic metal alloy used in human history to make tools, and weapons, and pretty much anything you would make out of iron.
Bronze is a simple historically friendly answer to a substance that can easily be used in a strong magnetic field.
After the bronze age, a civilization might proceed directly to the plastics age if iron is not feasible.
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Use whatever materials you want:
As you say:
The iron would be attracted by the ground
The thing is that arrows already are attracted to the ground - by gravity. You have to ask just how strong this magnetic field must be to noticeably deflect arrows.
Some experiments have been done on this with bullets including by the Mythbusters but they used non-ferrous ammunition.
The following video however shows an experiment with a powerful neodymium magnet and a steel ball from a low-powered air rifle. There is some deflection but they fire very close to the magnet and I don't suppose your landscape is made of neodymium.
https://youtu.be/pXDLGNKoR2c?t=279
Firing near a the world's most powerful MRI machine that has a 45-ton magnet and generates a 9.4-Tesla magnetic field would definitely deflect or even stop an arrow but there's nowhere to plug one in during medieval times.
The ground would be very magnetic, basically making every iron object much heavier. I think they could use some iron melee weapons in this case if they are very strong
– Edward Constantin
45 mins ago
1
Let's say arrows are 5 feet above the ground when fired, then nothing short of a multi-Tesla MRI machine will deflect them appreciably. Incidentally the Earths magnetic field is about 10 micro Teslas
– chasly from UK
40 mins ago
add a comment |
Use whatever materials you want:
As you say:
The iron would be attracted by the ground
The thing is that arrows already are attracted to the ground - by gravity. You have to ask just how strong this magnetic field must be to noticeably deflect arrows.
Some experiments have been done on this with bullets including by the Mythbusters but they used non-ferrous ammunition.
The following video however shows an experiment with a powerful neodymium magnet and a steel ball from a low-powered air rifle. There is some deflection but they fire very close to the magnet and I don't suppose your landscape is made of neodymium.
https://youtu.be/pXDLGNKoR2c?t=279
Firing near a the world's most powerful MRI machine that has a 45-ton magnet and generates a 9.4-Tesla magnetic field would definitely deflect or even stop an arrow but there's nowhere to plug one in during medieval times.
The ground would be very magnetic, basically making every iron object much heavier. I think they could use some iron melee weapons in this case if they are very strong
– Edward Constantin
45 mins ago
1
Let's say arrows are 5 feet above the ground when fired, then nothing short of a multi-Tesla MRI machine will deflect them appreciably. Incidentally the Earths magnetic field is about 10 micro Teslas
– chasly from UK
40 mins ago
add a comment |
Use whatever materials you want:
As you say:
The iron would be attracted by the ground
The thing is that arrows already are attracted to the ground - by gravity. You have to ask just how strong this magnetic field must be to noticeably deflect arrows.
Some experiments have been done on this with bullets including by the Mythbusters but they used non-ferrous ammunition.
The following video however shows an experiment with a powerful neodymium magnet and a steel ball from a low-powered air rifle. There is some deflection but they fire very close to the magnet and I don't suppose your landscape is made of neodymium.
https://youtu.be/pXDLGNKoR2c?t=279
Firing near a the world's most powerful MRI machine that has a 45-ton magnet and generates a 9.4-Tesla magnetic field would definitely deflect or even stop an arrow but there's nowhere to plug one in during medieval times.
Use whatever materials you want:
As you say:
The iron would be attracted by the ground
The thing is that arrows already are attracted to the ground - by gravity. You have to ask just how strong this magnetic field must be to noticeably deflect arrows.
Some experiments have been done on this with bullets including by the Mythbusters but they used non-ferrous ammunition.
The following video however shows an experiment with a powerful neodymium magnet and a steel ball from a low-powered air rifle. There is some deflection but they fire very close to the magnet and I don't suppose your landscape is made of neodymium.
https://youtu.be/pXDLGNKoR2c?t=279
Firing near a the world's most powerful MRI machine that has a 45-ton magnet and generates a 9.4-Tesla magnetic field would definitely deflect or even stop an arrow but there's nowhere to plug one in during medieval times.
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The ground would be very magnetic, basically making every iron object much heavier. I think they could use some iron melee weapons in this case if they are very strong
– Edward Constantin
45 mins ago
1
Let's say arrows are 5 feet above the ground when fired, then nothing short of a multi-Tesla MRI machine will deflect them appreciably. Incidentally the Earths magnetic field is about 10 micro Teslas
– chasly from UK
40 mins ago
add a comment |
The ground would be very magnetic, basically making every iron object much heavier. I think they could use some iron melee weapons in this case if they are very strong
– Edward Constantin
45 mins ago
1
Let's say arrows are 5 feet above the ground when fired, then nothing short of a multi-Tesla MRI machine will deflect them appreciably. Incidentally the Earths magnetic field is about 10 micro Teslas
– chasly from UK
40 mins ago
The ground would be very magnetic, basically making every iron object much heavier. I think they could use some iron melee weapons in this case if they are very strong
– Edward Constantin
45 mins ago
The ground would be very magnetic, basically making every iron object much heavier. I think they could use some iron melee weapons in this case if they are very strong
– Edward Constantin
45 mins ago
1
1
Let's say arrows are 5 feet above the ground when fired, then nothing short of a multi-Tesla MRI machine will deflect them appreciably. Incidentally the Earths magnetic field is about 10 micro Teslas
– chasly from UK
40 mins ago
Let's say arrows are 5 feet above the ground when fired, then nothing short of a multi-Tesla MRI machine will deflect them appreciably. Incidentally the Earths magnetic field is about 10 micro Teslas
– chasly from UK
40 mins ago
add a comment |
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I don't really understand how a planetary magnetic field could 'prevent' the use of iron. What do you mean by prevent? Does it rust or explode or break or simply fade away?
– kineticcrusher
1 hour ago
1
Does this mean that no metals that are affected by magnets can be used? Can they even be used to make other alloys? Because not all iron based steels can be affected by magnets.
– K Mo
1 hour ago
I thought all iron based materials are attracted by the magnets.
– Edward Constantin
1 hour ago