Is there any “base” Debian metapackage?
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I've used Debian's Raspberry Pi image builder to create arm64 image, but the problem is it's too barebones. Are there any metapackages that installs useful tools, equivalent to Ubuntu's ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-server?
Blind search on packages.debian.org proved to be futile.
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I've used Debian's Raspberry Pi image builder to create arm64 image, but the problem is it's too barebones. Are there any metapackages that installs useful tools, equivalent to Ubuntu's ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-server?
Blind search on packages.debian.org proved to be futile.
debian utilities
asked Jun 3 at 11:12
Oxwivi
66321123
Why not simply duplicate most of the package list for the 2 that you reference? You can create your owndebfile that has nothing but dependencies usingequivs- unix.stackexchange.com/questions/318117/…
– ivanivan
Jun 3 at 14:12
apt-cache search metapackageto list available metapackages
– michfuer
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up vote
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down vote
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I've used Debian's Raspberry Pi image builder to create arm64 image, but the problem is it's too barebones. Are there any metapackages that installs useful tools, equivalent to Ubuntu's ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-server?
Blind search on packages.debian.org proved to be futile.
debian utilities
asked Jun 3 at 11:12
Oxwivi
66321123
I've used Debian's Raspberry Pi image builder to create arm64 image, but the problem is it's too barebones. Are there any metapackages that installs useful tools, equivalent to Ubuntu's ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-server?
Blind search on packages.debian.org proved to be futile.
debian utilities
debian utilities
asked Jun 3 at 11:12
Oxwivi
66321123
asked Jun 3 at 11:12
Oxwivi
66321123
asked Jun 3 at 11:12
Oxwivi
66321123
asked Jun 3 at 11:12
Oxwivi
66321123
asked Jun 3 at 11:12
Oxwivi
66321123
66321123
Why not simply duplicate most of the package list for the 2 that you reference? You can create your owndebfile that has nothing but dependencies usingequivs- unix.stackexchange.com/questions/318117/…
– ivanivan
Jun 3 at 14:12
apt-cache search metapackageto list available metapackages
– michfuer
yesterday
add a comment |
Why not simply duplicate most of the package list for the 2 that you reference? You can create your owndebfile that has nothing but dependencies usingequivs- unix.stackexchange.com/questions/318117/…
– ivanivan
Jun 3 at 14:12
apt-cache search metapackageto list available metapackages
– michfuer
yesterday
Why not simply duplicate most of the package list for the 2 that you reference? You can create your own
deb file that has nothing but dependencies using equivs - unix.stackexchange.com/questions/318117/…– ivanivan
Jun 3 at 14:12
Why not simply duplicate most of the package list for the 2 that you reference? You can create your own
deb file that has nothing but dependencies using equivs - unix.stackexchange.com/questions/318117/…– ivanivan
Jun 3 at 14:12
apt-cache search metapackage to list available metapackages– michfuer
yesterday
apt-cache search metapackage to list available metapackages– michfuer
yesterday
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There are quite a few meta-packages in Debian; whether or not any one of them is appropriate will depend on your exact requirements. Start by looking at the packages produced by tasksel; those are the meta-packages used by the Debian installer. Most of them are language-related, or desktop-related, but there are a few server-related packages too (task-print-server, task-ssh-server, and task-web-server). Each tasksel package corresponds to an entry in the installer, so any package set which can be installed using the installer can also be obtained by installing tasksel packages (or using tasksel itself).
The “base” Debian installation is determined by package priorities and the “essential” flag rather than a meta-package (see the definition in Debian Policy). You’ll always have all essential packages, and you should always have all packages with priority “required”. In your particular case the contents of your image will be determined by the options given to debootstrap; see its documentation for details. If you don’t specify a --variant, you’ll get a base Debian install, the same as you’d obtain from the installer if you didn’t select any additional packages.
Based on your comments, I take it what you’re really looking for is to replicate the set of packages which end up installed by default. A default installation includes more packages than the base system; it also includes what’s known as the standard package set, i.e. all packages with standard “priority”. This includes packages such as bash-completion, file, the Debian documentation, vim-tiny... There is no corresponding meta-package; to install these packages after debootstrap, install tasksel and run tasksel install standard.
answered Jun 3 at 16:36
Stephen Kitt
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Other than language packs, and the-serverpacks you mention, there's only-web-server. I just want to know what packages a regular non-GUI Debian installs, why is that so difficult?
– Oxwivi
Jun 4 at 18:33
It’s not difficult, rundebootstrapwith no--variant(as done in the Raspberry Pi image) and you’ll get a base Debian install.
– Stephen Kitt
Jun 4 at 18:48
The reason for this question, besides minor inconveniences likebash-autocomplete, is it can't verify HTTPS certificates fromwgetURLs, and scripts that run on regular Debian server installation without intervention requires me to manually install dependencies that are obviously present on servers.
– Oxwivi
Jun 6 at 9:24
You asked whether there’s a “base” Debian metapackage, which is what I tried to address here. Perhaps you should ask another question describing what you’re really after; that would likely produce answers which are more immediately useful for you.
– Stephen Kitt
Jun 6 at 9:59
What do you mean? Are you suggesting those packages are not part of the "base" Debian despite being installed without user intervention?
– Oxwivi
Jun 6 at 16:47
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Debian has pretty good package list web pages at packages.debian.org, including lists of metapackages. For example, here is the metapackage list for Debian 9.
You should also check out the task metapackages, defined as sets of packages for specific server roles or GUI setups for specific languages.
answered Jun 3 at 23:03
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There are quite a few meta-packages in Debian; whether or not any one of them is appropriate will depend on your exact requirements. Start by looking at the packages produced by tasksel; those are the meta-packages used by the Debian installer. Most of them are language-related, or desktop-related, but there are a few server-related packages too (task-print-server, task-ssh-server, and task-web-server). Each tasksel package corresponds to an entry in the installer, so any package set which can be installed using the installer can also be obtained by installing tasksel packages (or using tasksel itself).
The “base” Debian installation is determined by package priorities and the “essential” flag rather than a meta-package (see the definition in Debian Policy). You’ll always have all essential packages, and you should always have all packages with priority “required”. In your particular case the contents of your image will be determined by the options given to debootstrap; see its documentation for details. If you don’t specify a --variant, you’ll get a base Debian install, the same as you’d obtain from the installer if you didn’t select any additional packages.
Based on your comments, I take it what you’re really looking for is to replicate the set of packages which end up installed by default. A default installation includes more packages than the base system; it also includes what’s known as the standard package set, i.e. all packages with standard “priority”. This includes packages such as bash-completion, file, the Debian documentation, vim-tiny... There is no corresponding meta-package; to install these packages after debootstrap, install tasksel and run tasksel install standard.
answered Jun 3 at 16:36
Stephen Kitt
162k24360438
Other than language packs, and the-serverpacks you mention, there's only-web-server. I just want to know what packages a regular non-GUI Debian installs, why is that so difficult?
– Oxwivi
Jun 4 at 18:33
It’s not difficult, rundebootstrapwith no--variant(as done in the Raspberry Pi image) and you’ll get a base Debian install.
– Stephen Kitt
Jun 4 at 18:48
The reason for this question, besides minor inconveniences likebash-autocomplete, is it can't verify HTTPS certificates fromwgetURLs, and scripts that run on regular Debian server installation without intervention requires me to manually install dependencies that are obviously present on servers.
– Oxwivi
Jun 6 at 9:24
You asked whether there’s a “base” Debian metapackage, which is what I tried to address here. Perhaps you should ask another question describing what you’re really after; that would likely produce answers which are more immediately useful for you.
– Stephen Kitt
Jun 6 at 9:59
What do you mean? Are you suggesting those packages are not part of the "base" Debian despite being installed without user intervention?
– Oxwivi
Jun 6 at 16:47
|
show 3 more comments
up vote
4
down vote
accepted
There are quite a few meta-packages in Debian; whether or not any one of them is appropriate will depend on your exact requirements. Start by looking at the packages produced by tasksel; those are the meta-packages used by the Debian installer. Most of them are language-related, or desktop-related, but there are a few server-related packages too (task-print-server, task-ssh-server, and task-web-server). Each tasksel package corresponds to an entry in the installer, so any package set which can be installed using the installer can also be obtained by installing tasksel packages (or using tasksel itself).
The “base” Debian installation is determined by package priorities and the “essential” flag rather than a meta-package (see the definition in Debian Policy). You’ll always have all essential packages, and you should always have all packages with priority “required”. In your particular case the contents of your image will be determined by the options given to debootstrap; see its documentation for details. If you don’t specify a --variant, you’ll get a base Debian install, the same as you’d obtain from the installer if you didn’t select any additional packages.
Based on your comments, I take it what you’re really looking for is to replicate the set of packages which end up installed by default. A default installation includes more packages than the base system; it also includes what’s known as the standard package set, i.e. all packages with standard “priority”. This includes packages such as bash-completion, file, the Debian documentation, vim-tiny... There is no corresponding meta-package; to install these packages after debootstrap, install tasksel and run tasksel install standard.
answered Jun 3 at 16:36
Stephen Kitt
162k24360438
Other than language packs, and the-serverpacks you mention, there's only-web-server. I just want to know what packages a regular non-GUI Debian installs, why is that so difficult?
– Oxwivi
Jun 4 at 18:33
It’s not difficult, rundebootstrapwith no--variant(as done in the Raspberry Pi image) and you’ll get a base Debian install.
– Stephen Kitt
Jun 4 at 18:48
The reason for this question, besides minor inconveniences likebash-autocomplete, is it can't verify HTTPS certificates fromwgetURLs, and scripts that run on regular Debian server installation without intervention requires me to manually install dependencies that are obviously present on servers.
– Oxwivi
Jun 6 at 9:24
You asked whether there’s a “base” Debian metapackage, which is what I tried to address here. Perhaps you should ask another question describing what you’re really after; that would likely produce answers which are more immediately useful for you.
– Stephen Kitt
Jun 6 at 9:59
What do you mean? Are you suggesting those packages are not part of the "base" Debian despite being installed without user intervention?
– Oxwivi
Jun 6 at 16:47
|
show 3 more comments
up vote
4
down vote
accepted
up vote
4
down vote
accepted
There are quite a few meta-packages in Debian; whether or not any one of them is appropriate will depend on your exact requirements. Start by looking at the packages produced by tasksel; those are the meta-packages used by the Debian installer. Most of them are language-related, or desktop-related, but there are a few server-related packages too (task-print-server, task-ssh-server, and task-web-server). Each tasksel package corresponds to an entry in the installer, so any package set which can be installed using the installer can also be obtained by installing tasksel packages (or using tasksel itself).
The “base” Debian installation is determined by package priorities and the “essential” flag rather than a meta-package (see the definition in Debian Policy). You’ll always have all essential packages, and you should always have all packages with priority “required”. In your particular case the contents of your image will be determined by the options given to debootstrap; see its documentation for details. If you don’t specify a --variant, you’ll get a base Debian install, the same as you’d obtain from the installer if you didn’t select any additional packages.
Based on your comments, I take it what you’re really looking for is to replicate the set of packages which end up installed by default. A default installation includes more packages than the base system; it also includes what’s known as the standard package set, i.e. all packages with standard “priority”. This includes packages such as bash-completion, file, the Debian documentation, vim-tiny... There is no corresponding meta-package; to install these packages after debootstrap, install tasksel and run tasksel install standard.
answered Jun 3 at 16:36
Stephen Kitt
162k24360438
There are quite a few meta-packages in Debian; whether or not any one of them is appropriate will depend on your exact requirements. Start by looking at the packages produced by tasksel; those are the meta-packages used by the Debian installer. Most of them are language-related, or desktop-related, but there are a few server-related packages too (task-print-server, task-ssh-server, and task-web-server). Each tasksel package corresponds to an entry in the installer, so any package set which can be installed using the installer can also be obtained by installing tasksel packages (or using tasksel itself).
The “base” Debian installation is determined by package priorities and the “essential” flag rather than a meta-package (see the definition in Debian Policy). You’ll always have all essential packages, and you should always have all packages with priority “required”. In your particular case the contents of your image will be determined by the options given to debootstrap; see its documentation for details. If you don’t specify a --variant, you’ll get a base Debian install, the same as you’d obtain from the installer if you didn’t select any additional packages.
Based on your comments, I take it what you’re really looking for is to replicate the set of packages which end up installed by default. A default installation includes more packages than the base system; it also includes what’s known as the standard package set, i.e. all packages with standard “priority”. This includes packages such as bash-completion, file, the Debian documentation, vim-tiny... There is no corresponding meta-package; to install these packages after debootstrap, install tasksel and run tasksel install standard.
answered Jun 3 at 16:36
Stephen Kitt
162k24360438
edited Jun 6 at 20:01
answered Jun 3 at 16:36
Stephen Kitt
162k24360438
answered Jun 3 at 16:36
Stephen Kitt
162k24360438
answered Jun 3 at 16:36
Stephen Kitt
162k24360438
162k24360438
Other than language packs, and the-serverpacks you mention, there's only-web-server. I just want to know what packages a regular non-GUI Debian installs, why is that so difficult?
– Oxwivi
Jun 4 at 18:33
It’s not difficult, rundebootstrapwith no--variant(as done in the Raspberry Pi image) and you’ll get a base Debian install.
– Stephen Kitt
Jun 4 at 18:48
The reason for this question, besides minor inconveniences likebash-autocomplete, is it can't verify HTTPS certificates fromwgetURLs, and scripts that run on regular Debian server installation without intervention requires me to manually install dependencies that are obviously present on servers.
– Oxwivi
Jun 6 at 9:24
You asked whether there’s a “base” Debian metapackage, which is what I tried to address here. Perhaps you should ask another question describing what you’re really after; that would likely produce answers which are more immediately useful for you.
– Stephen Kitt
Jun 6 at 9:59
What do you mean? Are you suggesting those packages are not part of the "base" Debian despite being installed without user intervention?
– Oxwivi
Jun 6 at 16:47
|
show 3 more comments
Other than language packs, and the-serverpacks you mention, there's only-web-server. I just want to know what packages a regular non-GUI Debian installs, why is that so difficult?
– Oxwivi
Jun 4 at 18:33
It’s not difficult, rundebootstrapwith no--variant(as done in the Raspberry Pi image) and you’ll get a base Debian install.
– Stephen Kitt
Jun 4 at 18:48
The reason for this question, besides minor inconveniences likebash-autocomplete, is it can't verify HTTPS certificates fromwgetURLs, and scripts that run on regular Debian server installation without intervention requires me to manually install dependencies that are obviously present on servers.
– Oxwivi
Jun 6 at 9:24
You asked whether there’s a “base” Debian metapackage, which is what I tried to address here. Perhaps you should ask another question describing what you’re really after; that would likely produce answers which are more immediately useful for you.
– Stephen Kitt
Jun 6 at 9:59
What do you mean? Are you suggesting those packages are not part of the "base" Debian despite being installed without user intervention?
– Oxwivi
Jun 6 at 16:47
Other than language packs, and the
-server packs you mention, there's only -web-server. I just want to know what packages a regular non-GUI Debian installs, why is that so difficult?– Oxwivi
Jun 4 at 18:33
Other than language packs, and the
-server packs you mention, there's only -web-server. I just want to know what packages a regular non-GUI Debian installs, why is that so difficult?– Oxwivi
Jun 4 at 18:33
It’s not difficult, run
debootstrap with no --variant (as done in the Raspberry Pi image) and you’ll get a base Debian install.– Stephen Kitt
Jun 4 at 18:48
It’s not difficult, run
debootstrap with no --variant (as done in the Raspberry Pi image) and you’ll get a base Debian install.– Stephen Kitt
Jun 4 at 18:48
The reason for this question, besides minor inconveniences like
bash-autocomplete, is it can't verify HTTPS certificates from wget URLs, and scripts that run on regular Debian server installation without intervention requires me to manually install dependencies that are obviously present on servers.– Oxwivi
Jun 6 at 9:24
The reason for this question, besides minor inconveniences like
bash-autocomplete, is it can't verify HTTPS certificates from wget URLs, and scripts that run on regular Debian server installation without intervention requires me to manually install dependencies that are obviously present on servers.– Oxwivi
Jun 6 at 9:24
You asked whether there’s a “base” Debian metapackage, which is what I tried to address here. Perhaps you should ask another question describing what you’re really after; that would likely produce answers which are more immediately useful for you.
– Stephen Kitt
Jun 6 at 9:59
You asked whether there’s a “base” Debian metapackage, which is what I tried to address here. Perhaps you should ask another question describing what you’re really after; that would likely produce answers which are more immediately useful for you.
– Stephen Kitt
Jun 6 at 9:59
What do you mean? Are you suggesting those packages are not part of the "base" Debian despite being installed without user intervention?
– Oxwivi
Jun 6 at 16:47
What do you mean? Are you suggesting those packages are not part of the "base" Debian despite being installed without user intervention?
– Oxwivi
Jun 6 at 16:47
|
show 3 more comments
up vote
1
down vote
Debian has pretty good package list web pages at packages.debian.org, including lists of metapackages. For example, here is the metapackage list for Debian 9.
You should also check out the task metapackages, defined as sets of packages for specific server roles or GUI setups for specific languages.
answered Jun 3 at 23:03
telcoM
15.6k12143
add a comment |
up vote
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Debian has pretty good package list web pages at packages.debian.org, including lists of metapackages. For example, here is the metapackage list for Debian 9.
You should also check out the task metapackages, defined as sets of packages for specific server roles or GUI setups for specific languages.
answered Jun 3 at 23:03
telcoM
15.6k12143
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
Debian has pretty good package list web pages at packages.debian.org, including lists of metapackages. For example, here is the metapackage list for Debian 9.
You should also check out the task metapackages, defined as sets of packages for specific server roles or GUI setups for specific languages.
answered Jun 3 at 23:03
telcoM
15.6k12143
Debian has pretty good package list web pages at packages.debian.org, including lists of metapackages. For example, here is the metapackage list for Debian 9.
You should also check out the task metapackages, defined as sets of packages for specific server roles or GUI setups for specific languages.
answered Jun 3 at 23:03
telcoM
15.6k12143
answered Jun 3 at 23:03
telcoM
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answered Jun 3 at 23:03
telcoM
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answered Jun 3 at 23:03
telcoM
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Why not simply duplicate most of the package list for the 2 that you reference? You can create your own
debfile that has nothing but dependencies usingequivs- unix.stackexchange.com/questions/318117/…– ivanivan
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apt-cache search metapackageto list available metapackages– michfuer
yesterday