Sum in a sudoku with sum total of 15 and 45
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I have created a sudoku puzzle with the following restrictions:
- Each row and column sum to $45$.
- Each row and column in the nine $3$ by $3$ sub-grids sum to $15$.
Is such a sudoku unique?
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I have created a sudoku puzzle with the following restrictions:
- Each row and column sum to $45$.
- Each row and column in the nine $3$ by $3$ sub-grids sum to $15$.
Is such a sudoku unique?
grid-deduction sudoku
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"...where each row and column adds to a total of 45..." is redundant, since it is in the nature of a sudoku puzzle that its rows and columns sum to $45$. This is because each row contains the numbers $1$ through $9$, and $1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 + 9 = 45$.
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– Hugh
2 hours ago
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"where each (3*3) 9 individual squares of rows and columns total a sum of 15" >>> do you mean 45?
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– Kryesec
1 hour ago
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@Kryesec I've assumed that that means that each of the 3 by 3 sub-grids is a magic square with "magic constant" 15. In other words, each row/column in each 3 by 3 sub-grid sums to 15.
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I have created a sudoku puzzle with the following restrictions:
- Each row and column sum to $45$.
- Each row and column in the nine $3$ by $3$ sub-grids sum to $15$.
Is such a sudoku unique?
grid-deduction sudoku
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I have created a sudoku puzzle with the following restrictions:
- Each row and column sum to $45$.
- Each row and column in the nine $3$ by $3$ sub-grids sum to $15$.
Is such a sudoku unique?
grid-deduction sudoku
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"...where each row and column adds to a total of 45..." is redundant, since it is in the nature of a sudoku puzzle that its rows and columns sum to $45$. This is because each row contains the numbers $1$ through $9$, and $1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 + 9 = 45$.
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– Hugh
2 hours ago
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"where each (3*3) 9 individual squares of rows and columns total a sum of 15" >>> do you mean 45?
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– Kryesec
1 hour ago
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@Kryesec I've assumed that that means that each of the 3 by 3 sub-grids is a magic square with "magic constant" 15. In other words, each row/column in each 3 by 3 sub-grid sums to 15.
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– Hugh
1 hour ago
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"...where each row and column adds to a total of 45..." is redundant, since it is in the nature of a sudoku puzzle that its rows and columns sum to $45$. This is because each row contains the numbers $1$ through $9$, and $1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 + 9 = 45$.
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– Hugh
2 hours ago
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"where each (3*3) 9 individual squares of rows and columns total a sum of 15" >>> do you mean 45?
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– Kryesec
1 hour ago
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@Kryesec I've assumed that that means that each of the 3 by 3 sub-grids is a magic square with "magic constant" 15. In other words, each row/column in each 3 by 3 sub-grid sums to 15.
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– Hugh
1 hour ago
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"...where each row and column adds to a total of 45..." is redundant, since it is in the nature of a sudoku puzzle that its rows and columns sum to $45$. This is because each row contains the numbers $1$ through $9$, and $1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 + 9 = 45$.
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– Hugh
2 hours ago
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"...where each row and column adds to a total of 45..." is redundant, since it is in the nature of a sudoku puzzle that its rows and columns sum to $45$. This is because each row contains the numbers $1$ through $9$, and $1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 + 9 = 45$.
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– Hugh
2 hours ago
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"where each (3*3) 9 individual squares of rows and columns total a sum of 15" >>> do you mean 45?
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– Kryesec
1 hour ago
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"where each (3*3) 9 individual squares of rows and columns total a sum of 15" >>> do you mean 45?
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– Kryesec
1 hour ago
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@Kryesec I've assumed that that means that each of the 3 by 3 sub-grids is a magic square with "magic constant" 15. In other words, each row/column in each 3 by 3 sub-grid sums to 15.
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– Hugh
1 hour ago
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@Kryesec I've assumed that that means that each of the 3 by 3 sub-grids is a magic square with "magic constant" 15. In other words, each row/column in each 3 by 3 sub-grid sums to 15.
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– Hugh
1 hour ago
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No.
Of course, there's rotation and reflection, but even beyond that you can swap any two rows within it's group of three rows (eg swap row 1 and 2 or swap 4 and 6), and you can swap a group of three with one of the other groups of three (eg swap 1,2,3 with 4,5,6), and the same applies to the columns.
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I was beaten to a very similar answer, but you can create such a square based on the magic square below:
abc
def
ghi
Turn it into this:
abcdefghi
defghiabc
ghiabcdef
bcaefdhig
efdhigbca
higbcaefd
cabfdeigh
fdeighcab
ighcabfde
Since there are multiple possible magic squares, it's not unique. When you change the number at the very center (i), which you can, you get a different sudoku (not even a rotation or reflection).
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No.
Of course, there's rotation and reflection, but even beyond that you can swap any two rows within it's group of three rows (eg swap row 1 and 2 or swap 4 and 6), and you can swap a group of three with one of the other groups of three (eg swap 1,2,3 with 4,5,6), and the same applies to the columns.
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No.
Of course, there's rotation and reflection, but even beyond that you can swap any two rows within it's group of three rows (eg swap row 1 and 2 or swap 4 and 6), and you can swap a group of three with one of the other groups of three (eg swap 1,2,3 with 4,5,6), and the same applies to the columns.
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No.
Of course, there's rotation and reflection, but even beyond that you can swap any two rows within it's group of three rows (eg swap row 1 and 2 or swap 4 and 6), and you can swap a group of three with one of the other groups of three (eg swap 1,2,3 with 4,5,6), and the same applies to the columns.
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No.
Of course, there's rotation and reflection, but even beyond that you can swap any two rows within it's group of three rows (eg swap row 1 and 2 or swap 4 and 6), and you can swap a group of three with one of the other groups of three (eg swap 1,2,3 with 4,5,6), and the same applies to the columns.
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I was beaten to a very similar answer, but you can create such a square based on the magic square below:
abc
def
ghi
Turn it into this:
abcdefghi
defghiabc
ghiabcdef
bcaefdhig
efdhigbca
higbcaefd
cabfdeigh
fdeighcab
ighcabfde
Since there are multiple possible magic squares, it's not unique. When you change the number at the very center (i), which you can, you get a different sudoku (not even a rotation or reflection).
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I was beaten to a very similar answer, but you can create such a square based on the magic square below:
abc
def
ghi
Turn it into this:
abcdefghi
defghiabc
ghiabcdef
bcaefdhig
efdhigbca
higbcaefd
cabfdeigh
fdeighcab
ighcabfde
Since there are multiple possible magic squares, it's not unique. When you change the number at the very center (i), which you can, you get a different sudoku (not even a rotation or reflection).
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I was beaten to a very similar answer, but you can create such a square based on the magic square below:
abc
def
ghi
Turn it into this:
abcdefghi
defghiabc
ghiabcdef
bcaefdhig
efdhigbca
higbcaefd
cabfdeigh
fdeighcab
ighcabfde
Since there are multiple possible magic squares, it's not unique. When you change the number at the very center (i), which you can, you get a different sudoku (not even a rotation or reflection).
$endgroup$
I was beaten to a very similar answer, but you can create such a square based on the magic square below:
abc
def
ghi
Turn it into this:
abcdefghi
defghiabc
ghiabcdef
bcaefdhig
efdhigbca
higbcaefd
cabfdeigh
fdeighcab
ighcabfde
Since there are multiple possible magic squares, it's not unique. When you change the number at the very center (i), which you can, you get a different sudoku (not even a rotation or reflection).
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"...where each row and column adds to a total of 45..." is redundant, since it is in the nature of a sudoku puzzle that its rows and columns sum to $45$. This is because each row contains the numbers $1$ through $9$, and $1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 + 9 = 45$.
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– Hugh
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"where each (3*3) 9 individual squares of rows and columns total a sum of 15" >>> do you mean 45?
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– Kryesec
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@Kryesec I've assumed that that means that each of the 3 by 3 sub-grids is a magic square with "magic constant" 15. In other words, each row/column in each 3 by 3 sub-grid sums to 15.
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– Hugh
1 hour ago