Associativity and splitting of three compound names
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Pre-question (answered here): Is there a compound word A|B with original components A and B that might be slit as A'|B' if A borrows some letters from B (or the other way around) to form A', and B' keeps the rest?
With that background:
Is there a word with three components A|B|C such that diverse associativity interpretations could lead to alternative meanings? Like (A|B)|C being different from A|(B|C) ? Or reorganizing
A'|B'|C' by creating new words with order and letter conservation?
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Pre-question (answered here): Is there a compound word A|B with original components A and B that might be slit as A'|B' if A borrows some letters from B (or the other way around) to form A', and B' keeps the rest?
With that background:
Is there a word with three components A|B|C such that diverse associativity interpretations could lead to alternative meanings? Like (A|B)|C being different from A|(B|C) ? Or reorganizing
A'|B'|C' by creating new words with order and letter conservation?
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I am not 100% sure I get what you want: Are you asking for something like Ur|Instinkt <> Urin|stinkt?
– Marzipanherz
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Yes, it is only proper German with a space in between, but I needed an example (even if it not fully matches). Would the components A, B, A' and B' need to be valid words when they are not used within the compound words? And are there limitations to their word classes?
– Marzipanherz
yesterday
Would Ei|dotter <> EId|otter be a better example? I found it in Hubert's answer to this question.
– Marzipanherz
yesterday
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@Marzipanherz Yes, I was thinking of A,B,A' and B' having to be all valid words (or A' and A prefixes and or B or B' sufixes). No limitation of word classes, I just find that in Scrabble those words should count twice :D I see my question is a dupe, thanks for the info.
– c.p.
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I think, technically it's not a dupe, because you've asked in English. Plus, I can not really see a good 3-compound case in the other answers :)
– Marzipanherz
yesterday
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Pre-question (answered here): Is there a compound word A|B with original components A and B that might be slit as A'|B' if A borrows some letters from B (or the other way around) to form A', and B' keeps the rest?
With that background:
Is there a word with three components A|B|C such that diverse associativity interpretations could lead to alternative meanings? Like (A|B)|C being different from A|(B|C) ? Or reorganizing
A'|B'|C' by creating new words with order and letter conservation?
compounds mathematics
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Pre-question (answered here): Is there a compound word A|B with original components A and B that might be slit as A'|B' if A borrows some letters from B (or the other way around) to form A', and B' keeps the rest?
With that background:
Is there a word with three components A|B|C such that diverse associativity interpretations could lead to alternative meanings? Like (A|B)|C being different from A|(B|C) ? Or reorganizing
A'|B'|C' by creating new words with order and letter conservation?
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I am not 100% sure I get what you want: Are you asking for something like Ur|Instinkt <> Urin|stinkt?
– Marzipanherz
yesterday
1
Yes, it is only proper German with a space in between, but I needed an example (even if it not fully matches). Would the components A, B, A' and B' need to be valid words when they are not used within the compound words? And are there limitations to their word classes?
– Marzipanherz
yesterday
Would Ei|dotter <> EId|otter be a better example? I found it in Hubert's answer to this question.
– Marzipanherz
yesterday
1
@Marzipanherz Yes, I was thinking of A,B,A' and B' having to be all valid words (or A' and A prefixes and or B or B' sufixes). No limitation of word classes, I just find that in Scrabble those words should count twice :D I see my question is a dupe, thanks for the info.
– c.p.
yesterday
1
I think, technically it's not a dupe, because you've asked in English. Plus, I can not really see a good 3-compound case in the other answers :)
– Marzipanherz
yesterday
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I am not 100% sure I get what you want: Are you asking for something like Ur|Instinkt <> Urin|stinkt?
– Marzipanherz
yesterday
1
Yes, it is only proper German with a space in between, but I needed an example (even if it not fully matches). Would the components A, B, A' and B' need to be valid words when they are not used within the compound words? And are there limitations to their word classes?
– Marzipanherz
yesterday
Would Ei|dotter <> EId|otter be a better example? I found it in Hubert's answer to this question.
– Marzipanherz
yesterday
1
@Marzipanherz Yes, I was thinking of A,B,A' and B' having to be all valid words (or A' and A prefixes and or B or B' sufixes). No limitation of word classes, I just find that in Scrabble those words should count twice :D I see my question is a dupe, thanks for the info.
– c.p.
yesterday
1
I think, technically it's not a dupe, because you've asked in English. Plus, I can not really see a good 3-compound case in the other answers :)
– Marzipanherz
yesterday
1
1
I am not 100% sure I get what you want: Are you asking for something like Ur|Instinkt <> Urin|stinkt?
– Marzipanherz
yesterday
I am not 100% sure I get what you want: Are you asking for something like Ur|Instinkt <> Urin|stinkt?
– Marzipanherz
yesterday
1
1
Yes, it is only proper German with a space in between, but I needed an example (even if it not fully matches). Would the components A, B, A' and B' need to be valid words when they are not used within the compound words? And are there limitations to their word classes?
– Marzipanherz
yesterday
Yes, it is only proper German with a space in between, but I needed an example (even if it not fully matches). Would the components A, B, A' and B' need to be valid words when they are not used within the compound words? And are there limitations to their word classes?
– Marzipanherz
yesterday
Would Ei|dotter <> EId|otter be a better example? I found it in Hubert's answer to this question.
– Marzipanherz
yesterday
Would Ei|dotter <> EId|otter be a better example? I found it in Hubert's answer to this question.
– Marzipanherz
yesterday
1
1
@Marzipanherz Yes, I was thinking of A,B,A' and B' having to be all valid words (or A' and A prefixes and or B or B' sufixes). No limitation of word classes, I just find that in Scrabble those words should count twice :D I see my question is a dupe, thanks for the info.
– c.p.
yesterday
@Marzipanherz Yes, I was thinking of A,B,A' and B' having to be all valid words (or A' and A prefixes and or B or B' sufixes). No limitation of word classes, I just find that in Scrabble those words should count twice :D I see my question is a dupe, thanks for the info.
– c.p.
yesterday
1
1
I think, technically it's not a dupe, because you've asked in English. Plus, I can not really see a good 3-compound case in the other answers :)
– Marzipanherz
yesterday
I think, technically it's not a dupe, because you've asked in English. Plus, I can not really see a good 3-compound case in the other answers :)
– Marzipanherz
yesterday
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Example for a word with 3 components:
Die Fensterheberzeit (die Zeit, die der Heber für eine vollständige
Öffnung oder Schließung benötigt) liegt bei diesem Fahrzeug bei gerade
einmal 1,2 Sekunden.
Wer kurbelt denn heute noch, wir leben doch längst in einer Fensterheberzeit!
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Herrlich, dass es so was gibt. Kann ich fragen, wie du auf die Idee gekommen bist?
– c.p.
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@c.p.: Ich habe gedanklich aus dem Fenster auf die Straße geschaut. Gesehen habe ich parkende Autos.
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A classical example for such a word is Staubecken which can be read as Stau-becken (from stauen and Becken) or Staub-ecken (from Staub and Ecke).
However, the two possibilites differ in number, as the former is singular and the latter is plural.
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RHa
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I think this should be replaced in our minds with Frustration. Much better example.
– Janka
yesterday
@Janka Frust-Ration and what else? I cannot see something like Fru-Stration
– rexkogitans
yesterday
Frus-tra-tion und Frust-ra-tion.
– Janka
yesterday
2
But Frus-tra-tion is not a compound.
– RHa
yesterday
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2 Answers
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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up vote
1
down vote
accepted
Example for a word with 3 components:
Die Fensterheberzeit (die Zeit, die der Heber für eine vollständige
Öffnung oder Schließung benötigt) liegt bei diesem Fahrzeug bei gerade
einmal 1,2 Sekunden.
Wer kurbelt denn heute noch, wir leben doch längst in einer Fensterheberzeit!
answered yesterday
Pollitzer
11.9k21130
1
Herrlich, dass es so was gibt. Kann ich fragen, wie du auf die Idee gekommen bist?
– c.p.
yesterday
1
@c.p.: Ich habe gedanklich aus dem Fenster auf die Straße geschaut. Gesehen habe ich parkende Autos.
– Pollitzer
yesterday
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
Example for a word with 3 components:
Die Fensterheberzeit (die Zeit, die der Heber für eine vollständige
Öffnung oder Schließung benötigt) liegt bei diesem Fahrzeug bei gerade
einmal 1,2 Sekunden.
Wer kurbelt denn heute noch, wir leben doch längst in einer Fensterheberzeit!
answered yesterday
Pollitzer
11.9k21130
1
Herrlich, dass es so was gibt. Kann ich fragen, wie du auf die Idee gekommen bist?
– c.p.
yesterday
1
@c.p.: Ich habe gedanklich aus dem Fenster auf die Straße geschaut. Gesehen habe ich parkende Autos.
– Pollitzer
yesterday
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
Example for a word with 3 components:
Die Fensterheberzeit (die Zeit, die der Heber für eine vollständige
Öffnung oder Schließung benötigt) liegt bei diesem Fahrzeug bei gerade
einmal 1,2 Sekunden.
Wer kurbelt denn heute noch, wir leben doch längst in einer Fensterheberzeit!
answered yesterday
Pollitzer
11.9k21130
Example for a word with 3 components:
Die Fensterheberzeit (die Zeit, die der Heber für eine vollständige
Öffnung oder Schließung benötigt) liegt bei diesem Fahrzeug bei gerade
einmal 1,2 Sekunden.
Wer kurbelt denn heute noch, wir leben doch längst in einer Fensterheberzeit!
answered yesterday
Pollitzer
11.9k21130
answered yesterday
Pollitzer
11.9k21130
answered yesterday
Pollitzer
11.9k21130
answered yesterday
Pollitzer
11.9k21130
11.9k21130
1
Herrlich, dass es so was gibt. Kann ich fragen, wie du auf die Idee gekommen bist?
– c.p.
yesterday
1
@c.p.: Ich habe gedanklich aus dem Fenster auf die Straße geschaut. Gesehen habe ich parkende Autos.
– Pollitzer
yesterday
add a comment |
1
Herrlich, dass es so was gibt. Kann ich fragen, wie du auf die Idee gekommen bist?
– c.p.
yesterday
1
@c.p.: Ich habe gedanklich aus dem Fenster auf die Straße geschaut. Gesehen habe ich parkende Autos.
– Pollitzer
yesterday
1
1
Herrlich, dass es so was gibt. Kann ich fragen, wie du auf die Idee gekommen bist?
– c.p.
yesterday
Herrlich, dass es so was gibt. Kann ich fragen, wie du auf die Idee gekommen bist?
– c.p.
yesterday
1
1
@c.p.: Ich habe gedanklich aus dem Fenster auf die Straße geschaut. Gesehen habe ich parkende Autos.
– Pollitzer
yesterday
@c.p.: Ich habe gedanklich aus dem Fenster auf die Straße geschaut. Gesehen habe ich parkende Autos.
– Pollitzer
yesterday
add a comment |
up vote
3
down vote
A classical example for such a word is Staubecken which can be read as Stau-becken (from stauen and Becken) or Staub-ecken (from Staub and Ecke).
However, the two possibilites differ in number, as the former is singular and the latter is plural.
answered yesterday
RHa
6,2221527
I think this should be replaced in our minds with Frustration. Much better example.
– Janka
yesterday
@Janka Frust-Ration and what else? I cannot see something like Fru-Stration
– rexkogitans
yesterday
Frus-tra-tion und Frust-ra-tion.
– Janka
yesterday
2
But Frus-tra-tion is not a compound.
– RHa
yesterday
add a comment |
up vote
3
down vote
A classical example for such a word is Staubecken which can be read as Stau-becken (from stauen and Becken) or Staub-ecken (from Staub and Ecke).
However, the two possibilites differ in number, as the former is singular and the latter is plural.
answered yesterday
RHa
6,2221527
I think this should be replaced in our minds with Frustration. Much better example.
– Janka
yesterday
@Janka Frust-Ration and what else? I cannot see something like Fru-Stration
– rexkogitans
yesterday
Frus-tra-tion und Frust-ra-tion.
– Janka
yesterday
2
But Frus-tra-tion is not a compound.
– RHa
yesterday
add a comment |
up vote
3
down vote
up vote
3
down vote
A classical example for such a word is Staubecken which can be read as Stau-becken (from stauen and Becken) or Staub-ecken (from Staub and Ecke).
However, the two possibilites differ in number, as the former is singular and the latter is plural.
answered yesterday
RHa
6,2221527
A classical example for such a word is Staubecken which can be read as Stau-becken (from stauen and Becken) or Staub-ecken (from Staub and Ecke).
However, the two possibilites differ in number, as the former is singular and the latter is plural.
answered yesterday
RHa
6,2221527
answered yesterday
RHa
6,2221527
answered yesterday
RHa
6,2221527
answered yesterday
RHa
6,2221527
6,2221527
I think this should be replaced in our minds with Frustration. Much better example.
– Janka
yesterday
@Janka Frust-Ration and what else? I cannot see something like Fru-Stration
– rexkogitans
yesterday
Frus-tra-tion und Frust-ra-tion.
– Janka
yesterday
2
But Frus-tra-tion is not a compound.
– RHa
yesterday
add a comment |
I think this should be replaced in our minds with Frustration. Much better example.
– Janka
yesterday
@Janka Frust-Ration and what else? I cannot see something like Fru-Stration
– rexkogitans
yesterday
Frus-tra-tion und Frust-ra-tion.
– Janka
yesterday
2
But Frus-tra-tion is not a compound.
– RHa
yesterday
I think this should be replaced in our minds with Frustration. Much better example.
– Janka
yesterday
I think this should be replaced in our minds with Frustration. Much better example.
– Janka
yesterday
@Janka Frust-Ration and what else? I cannot see something like Fru-Stration
– rexkogitans
yesterday
@Janka Frust-Ration and what else? I cannot see something like Fru-Stration
– rexkogitans
yesterday
Frus-tra-tion und Frust-ra-tion.
– Janka
yesterday
Frus-tra-tion und Frust-ra-tion.
– Janka
yesterday
2
2
But Frus-tra-tion is not a compound.
– RHa
yesterday
But Frus-tra-tion is not a compound.
– RHa
yesterday
add a comment |
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I am not 100% sure I get what you want: Are you asking for something like Ur|Instinkt <> Urin|stinkt?
– Marzipanherz
yesterday
1
Yes, it is only proper German with a space in between, but I needed an example (even if it not fully matches). Would the components A, B, A' and B' need to be valid words when they are not used within the compound words? And are there limitations to their word classes?
– Marzipanherz
yesterday
Would Ei|dotter <> EId|otter be a better example? I found it in Hubert's answer to this question.
– Marzipanherz
yesterday
1
@Marzipanherz Yes, I was thinking of A,B,A' and B' having to be all valid words (or A' and A prefixes and or B or B' sufixes). No limitation of word classes, I just find that in Scrabble those words should count twice :D I see my question is a dupe, thanks for the info.
– c.p.
yesterday
1
I think, technically it's not a dupe, because you've asked in English. Plus, I can not really see a good 3-compound case in the other answers :)
– Marzipanherz
yesterday