DistributeDefinitions is evaluating the definitions, but only for large number of definitions












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I am using Mathematica 11.3 and this seems to me to be a bug. I would like, if possible, some idea on a workaround.



Here is an example of trivial code that works as expected:



nI = 10;
(NM[#] := Print[#] ) & /@ Range[1, nI];
LaunchKernels;
DistributeDefinitions[NM];


That is, the code above generates no output, as expected.



Now, if the first line is changed to



nI = 20;


The same code leads to 40 lines being printed! From 1 to 20 two times.



For some reason, the DistributionDefinitions is forcing the definition of NM to be executed, and I do not want that to happen before I use ParallelSubmit and WaitAll. I tried this in two computers with Mathematica 11.3, any ideas on what is happening?










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  • On my machine the behaviour changes from nI=17 to 18. If I look at Definitions[NM], up to 17 it prints as :=-definitions, but above that it prints as =-definitions. Thus the core issue may be not with the parallel tools, but with how definitions are stored.
    – Szabolcs
    2 hours ago










  • The reason appears to be that Language`ExtendedFullDefinition switches from using RuleDelayed to Rule after 18 down-values. This causes DistributeDefinitions to subsequently leak the evaluation.
    – Lukas Lang
    2 hours ago


















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I am using Mathematica 11.3 and this seems to me to be a bug. I would like, if possible, some idea on a workaround.



Here is an example of trivial code that works as expected:



nI = 10;
(NM[#] := Print[#] ) & /@ Range[1, nI];
LaunchKernels;
DistributeDefinitions[NM];


That is, the code above generates no output, as expected.



Now, if the first line is changed to



nI = 20;


The same code leads to 40 lines being printed! From 1 to 20 two times.



For some reason, the DistributionDefinitions is forcing the definition of NM to be executed, and I do not want that to happen before I use ParallelSubmit and WaitAll. I tried this in two computers with Mathematica 11.3, any ideas on what is happening?










share|improve this question
























  • On my machine the behaviour changes from nI=17 to 18. If I look at Definitions[NM], up to 17 it prints as :=-definitions, but above that it prints as =-definitions. Thus the core issue may be not with the parallel tools, but with how definitions are stored.
    – Szabolcs
    2 hours ago










  • The reason appears to be that Language`ExtendedFullDefinition switches from using RuleDelayed to Rule after 18 down-values. This causes DistributeDefinitions to subsequently leak the evaluation.
    – Lukas Lang
    2 hours ago
















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I am using Mathematica 11.3 and this seems to me to be a bug. I would like, if possible, some idea on a workaround.



Here is an example of trivial code that works as expected:



nI = 10;
(NM[#] := Print[#] ) & /@ Range[1, nI];
LaunchKernels;
DistributeDefinitions[NM];


That is, the code above generates no output, as expected.



Now, if the first line is changed to



nI = 20;


The same code leads to 40 lines being printed! From 1 to 20 two times.



For some reason, the DistributionDefinitions is forcing the definition of NM to be executed, and I do not want that to happen before I use ParallelSubmit and WaitAll. I tried this in two computers with Mathematica 11.3, any ideas on what is happening?










share|improve this question















I am using Mathematica 11.3 and this seems to me to be a bug. I would like, if possible, some idea on a workaround.



Here is an example of trivial code that works as expected:



nI = 10;
(NM[#] := Print[#] ) & /@ Range[1, nI];
LaunchKernels;
DistributeDefinitions[NM];


That is, the code above generates no output, as expected.



Now, if the first line is changed to



nI = 20;


The same code leads to 40 lines being printed! From 1 to 20 two times.



For some reason, the DistributionDefinitions is forcing the definition of NM to be executed, and I do not want that to happen before I use ParallelSubmit and WaitAll. I tried this in two computers with Mathematica 11.3, any ideas on what is happening?







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  • On my machine the behaviour changes from nI=17 to 18. If I look at Definitions[NM], up to 17 it prints as :=-definitions, but above that it prints as =-definitions. Thus the core issue may be not with the parallel tools, but with how definitions are stored.
    – Szabolcs
    2 hours ago










  • The reason appears to be that Language`ExtendedFullDefinition switches from using RuleDelayed to Rule after 18 down-values. This causes DistributeDefinitions to subsequently leak the evaluation.
    – Lukas Lang
    2 hours ago




















  • On my machine the behaviour changes from nI=17 to 18. If I look at Definitions[NM], up to 17 it prints as :=-definitions, but above that it prints as =-definitions. Thus the core issue may be not with the parallel tools, but with how definitions are stored.
    – Szabolcs
    2 hours ago










  • The reason appears to be that Language`ExtendedFullDefinition switches from using RuleDelayed to Rule after 18 down-values. This causes DistributeDefinitions to subsequently leak the evaluation.
    – Lukas Lang
    2 hours ago


















On my machine the behaviour changes from nI=17 to 18. If I look at Definitions[NM], up to 17 it prints as :=-definitions, but above that it prints as =-definitions. Thus the core issue may be not with the parallel tools, but with how definitions are stored.
– Szabolcs
2 hours ago




On my machine the behaviour changes from nI=17 to 18. If I look at Definitions[NM], up to 17 it prints as :=-definitions, but above that it prints as =-definitions. Thus the core issue may be not with the parallel tools, but with how definitions are stored.
– Szabolcs
2 hours ago












The reason appears to be that Language`ExtendedFullDefinition switches from using RuleDelayed to Rule after 18 down-values. This causes DistributeDefinitions to subsequently leak the evaluation.
– Lukas Lang
2 hours ago






The reason appears to be that Language`ExtendedFullDefinition switches from using RuleDelayed to Rule after 18 down-values. This causes DistributeDefinitions to subsequently leak the evaluation.
– Lukas Lang
2 hours ago












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TL;DR;



Execute the following code to fix the problem:



DistributeDefinitions;
DownValues[Parallel`Protected`DistDefs] =
DownValues[Parallel`Protected`DistDefs] /.
HoldPattern[
u : Parallel`Parallel`Private`updates =
rhs_Language`ExtendedFullDefinition
] :>
(
u = Replace[
rhs,
defs : {(_HoldPattern -> _) ..} :> With[
{res = RuleDelayed @@@ Unevaluated@defs},
res /; True
],
{4}
]
);


What does this do?



As mentioned in the comments, the issue is that Language`ExtendedFullDefinition seems to change the return format at 18 down-values. This causes the subsequent manipulations of DistributeDefinitions on the returned Language`DefinitionList[…] expression to leak the evaluation of the definitions (as their r.h.s. are no longer protected by the HoldRest attribute of RuleDelayed).



The code above fixes this by wrapping the call to Language`ExtendedFullDefinition (which happens in Parallel`Protected`DistDefs) with a piece of code that replaces definitions of the form HoldPattern[…]->… with HoldPattern[…]:>…, which prevents the evaluation leak.






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    TL;DR;



    Execute the following code to fix the problem:



    DistributeDefinitions;
    DownValues[Parallel`Protected`DistDefs] =
    DownValues[Parallel`Protected`DistDefs] /.
    HoldPattern[
    u : Parallel`Parallel`Private`updates =
    rhs_Language`ExtendedFullDefinition
    ] :>
    (
    u = Replace[
    rhs,
    defs : {(_HoldPattern -> _) ..} :> With[
    {res = RuleDelayed @@@ Unevaluated@defs},
    res /; True
    ],
    {4}
    ]
    );


    What does this do?



    As mentioned in the comments, the issue is that Language`ExtendedFullDefinition seems to change the return format at 18 down-values. This causes the subsequent manipulations of DistributeDefinitions on the returned Language`DefinitionList[…] expression to leak the evaluation of the definitions (as their r.h.s. are no longer protected by the HoldRest attribute of RuleDelayed).



    The code above fixes this by wrapping the call to Language`ExtendedFullDefinition (which happens in Parallel`Protected`DistDefs) with a piece of code that replaces definitions of the form HoldPattern[…]->… with HoldPattern[…]:>…, which prevents the evaluation leak.






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      TL;DR;



      Execute the following code to fix the problem:



      DistributeDefinitions;
      DownValues[Parallel`Protected`DistDefs] =
      DownValues[Parallel`Protected`DistDefs] /.
      HoldPattern[
      u : Parallel`Parallel`Private`updates =
      rhs_Language`ExtendedFullDefinition
      ] :>
      (
      u = Replace[
      rhs,
      defs : {(_HoldPattern -> _) ..} :> With[
      {res = RuleDelayed @@@ Unevaluated@defs},
      res /; True
      ],
      {4}
      ]
      );


      What does this do?



      As mentioned in the comments, the issue is that Language`ExtendedFullDefinition seems to change the return format at 18 down-values. This causes the subsequent manipulations of DistributeDefinitions on the returned Language`DefinitionList[…] expression to leak the evaluation of the definitions (as their r.h.s. are no longer protected by the HoldRest attribute of RuleDelayed).



      The code above fixes this by wrapping the call to Language`ExtendedFullDefinition (which happens in Parallel`Protected`DistDefs) with a piece of code that replaces definitions of the form HoldPattern[…]->… with HoldPattern[…]:>…, which prevents the evaluation leak.






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        TL;DR;



        Execute the following code to fix the problem:



        DistributeDefinitions;
        DownValues[Parallel`Protected`DistDefs] =
        DownValues[Parallel`Protected`DistDefs] /.
        HoldPattern[
        u : Parallel`Parallel`Private`updates =
        rhs_Language`ExtendedFullDefinition
        ] :>
        (
        u = Replace[
        rhs,
        defs : {(_HoldPattern -> _) ..} :> With[
        {res = RuleDelayed @@@ Unevaluated@defs},
        res /; True
        ],
        {4}
        ]
        );


        What does this do?



        As mentioned in the comments, the issue is that Language`ExtendedFullDefinition seems to change the return format at 18 down-values. This causes the subsequent manipulations of DistributeDefinitions on the returned Language`DefinitionList[…] expression to leak the evaluation of the definitions (as their r.h.s. are no longer protected by the HoldRest attribute of RuleDelayed).



        The code above fixes this by wrapping the call to Language`ExtendedFullDefinition (which happens in Parallel`Protected`DistDefs) with a piece of code that replaces definitions of the form HoldPattern[…]->… with HoldPattern[…]:>…, which prevents the evaluation leak.






        share|improve this answer












        TL;DR;



        Execute the following code to fix the problem:



        DistributeDefinitions;
        DownValues[Parallel`Protected`DistDefs] =
        DownValues[Parallel`Protected`DistDefs] /.
        HoldPattern[
        u : Parallel`Parallel`Private`updates =
        rhs_Language`ExtendedFullDefinition
        ] :>
        (
        u = Replace[
        rhs,
        defs : {(_HoldPattern -> _) ..} :> With[
        {res = RuleDelayed @@@ Unevaluated@defs},
        res /; True
        ],
        {4}
        ]
        );


        What does this do?



        As mentioned in the comments, the issue is that Language`ExtendedFullDefinition seems to change the return format at 18 down-values. This causes the subsequent manipulations of DistributeDefinitions on the returned Language`DefinitionList[…] expression to leak the evaluation of the definitions (as their r.h.s. are no longer protected by the HoldRest attribute of RuleDelayed).



        The code above fixes this by wrapping the call to Language`ExtendedFullDefinition (which happens in Parallel`Protected`DistDefs) with a piece of code that replaces definitions of the form HoldPattern[…]->… with HoldPattern[…]:>…, which prevents the evaluation leak.







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