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Welcome to Mi Yoedeya. Are you assuming that in general one must stand to read at a communal reading?
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Welcome to Mi Yoedeya. Are you assuming that in general one must stand to read at a communal reading?
– Alex
3 hours ago
Welcome to Mi Yoedeya. Are you assuming that in general one must stand to read at a communal reading?
– Alex
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Welcome to Mi Yoedeya. Are you assuming that in general one must stand to read at a communal reading?
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The Shulchan Aruch 141:1 writes that the baal koreh must stand. Even leaning on a wall is assur unless one is a baal basar (overweight).
Rav Yitzchak Abadi 1:53 has a teshuva that one does not need to stand during laining and brings as a proof the fact that only the baal koreh needs to. He brings from the Rambam Hilchos Tefillah 12:11,and he also brings the Hagahos Maimonis who specifically talks about the baal koreh since the Rambam is talking about the m'turgaman. He also brings the Biur Hagra who sources the Yerushalmi Megilla 4:1 which says it's assur for the m'turgaman and the baal koreh to read sitting. (Also in the Bavli 21a)
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Hmmm ... I have some research to do as well as some questions to ask my rav. Would you mind confirming if these sources are in all cases - no matter what? OP Seems to focus on an ones - someone who has difficulty or can't do it.
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I occasionally daven in a nursing home. One of the patients has an amputated leg. He lains (and is frequently Shaliach Tzibur ) from his wheelchair. The rav permits this.
@Sam referred to O.C. 141:1 which states that the ba'al Koreh must stand. However, see Mishnah Berurah commentary #4 which states that someone who is ill may lean a bit. I have to look further if the leaning would extend to completely sitting if one cannot even lean.
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The Shulchan Aruch states this himself regarding a baal basar,I wrote in my answer
– sam
4 hours ago
@sam Thanks. I saw that, and MB goes further to include all ill people that have difficulty. However, it is unclear if it includes Sitting.
– DanF
2 hours ago
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The Shulchan Aruch 141:1 writes that the baal koreh must stand. Even leaning on a wall is assur unless one is a baal basar (overweight).
Rav Yitzchak Abadi 1:53 has a teshuva that one does not need to stand during laining and brings as a proof the fact that only the baal koreh needs to. He brings from the Rambam Hilchos Tefillah 12:11,and he also brings the Hagahos Maimonis who specifically talks about the baal koreh since the Rambam is talking about the m'turgaman. He also brings the Biur Hagra who sources the Yerushalmi Megilla 4:1 which says it's assur for the m'turgaman and the baal koreh to read sitting. (Also in the Bavli 21a)
edited 2 hours ago
WAF
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answered 5 hours ago
sam
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Hmmm ... I have some research to do as well as some questions to ask my rav. Would you mind confirming if these sources are in all cases - no matter what? OP Seems to focus on an ones - someone who has difficulty or can't do it.
– DanF
5 hours ago
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The Shulchan Aruch 141:1 writes that the baal koreh must stand. Even leaning on a wall is assur unless one is a baal basar (overweight).
Rav Yitzchak Abadi 1:53 has a teshuva that one does not need to stand during laining and brings as a proof the fact that only the baal koreh needs to. He brings from the Rambam Hilchos Tefillah 12:11,and he also brings the Hagahos Maimonis who specifically talks about the baal koreh since the Rambam is talking about the m'turgaman. He also brings the Biur Hagra who sources the Yerushalmi Megilla 4:1 which says it's assur for the m'turgaman and the baal koreh to read sitting. (Also in the Bavli 21a)
edited 2 hours ago
WAF
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answered 5 hours ago
sam
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Hmmm ... I have some research to do as well as some questions to ask my rav. Would you mind confirming if these sources are in all cases - no matter what? OP Seems to focus on an ones - someone who has difficulty or can't do it.
– DanF
5 hours ago
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The Shulchan Aruch 141:1 writes that the baal koreh must stand. Even leaning on a wall is assur unless one is a baal basar (overweight).
Rav Yitzchak Abadi 1:53 has a teshuva that one does not need to stand during laining and brings as a proof the fact that only the baal koreh needs to. He brings from the Rambam Hilchos Tefillah 12:11,and he also brings the Hagahos Maimonis who specifically talks about the baal koreh since the Rambam is talking about the m'turgaman. He also brings the Biur Hagra who sources the Yerushalmi Megilla 4:1 which says it's assur for the m'turgaman and the baal koreh to read sitting. (Also in the Bavli 21a)
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WAF
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answered 5 hours ago
sam
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The Shulchan Aruch 141:1 writes that the baal koreh must stand. Even leaning on a wall is assur unless one is a baal basar (overweight).
Rav Yitzchak Abadi 1:53 has a teshuva that one does not need to stand during laining and brings as a proof the fact that only the baal koreh needs to. He brings from the Rambam Hilchos Tefillah 12:11,and he also brings the Hagahos Maimonis who specifically talks about the baal koreh since the Rambam is talking about the m'turgaman. He also brings the Biur Hagra who sources the Yerushalmi Megilla 4:1 which says it's assur for the m'turgaman and the baal koreh to read sitting. (Also in the Bavli 21a)
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sam
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WAF
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Hmmm ... I have some research to do as well as some questions to ask my rav. Would you mind confirming if these sources are in all cases - no matter what? OP Seems to focus on an ones - someone who has difficulty or can't do it.
– DanF
5 hours ago
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Hmmm ... I have some research to do as well as some questions to ask my rav. Would you mind confirming if these sources are in all cases - no matter what? OP Seems to focus on an ones - someone who has difficulty or can't do it.
– DanF
5 hours ago
Hmmm ... I have some research to do as well as some questions to ask my rav. Would you mind confirming if these sources are in all cases - no matter what? OP Seems to focus on an ones - someone who has difficulty or can't do it.
– DanF
5 hours ago
Hmmm ... I have some research to do as well as some questions to ask my rav. Would you mind confirming if these sources are in all cases - no matter what? OP Seems to focus on an ones - someone who has difficulty or can't do it.
– DanF
5 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
2
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I occasionally daven in a nursing home. One of the patients has an amputated leg. He lains (and is frequently Shaliach Tzibur ) from his wheelchair. The rav permits this.
@Sam referred to O.C. 141:1 which states that the ba'al Koreh must stand. However, see Mishnah Berurah commentary #4 which states that someone who is ill may lean a bit. I have to look further if the leaning would extend to completely sitting if one cannot even lean.
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DanF
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The Shulchan Aruch states this himself regarding a baal basar,I wrote in my answer
– sam
4 hours ago
@sam Thanks. I saw that, and MB goes further to include all ill people that have difficulty. However, it is unclear if it includes Sitting.
– DanF
2 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
I occasionally daven in a nursing home. One of the patients has an amputated leg. He lains (and is frequently Shaliach Tzibur ) from his wheelchair. The rav permits this.
@Sam referred to O.C. 141:1 which states that the ba'al Koreh must stand. However, see Mishnah Berurah commentary #4 which states that someone who is ill may lean a bit. I have to look further if the leaning would extend to completely sitting if one cannot even lean.
answered 6 hours ago
DanF
32.9k525121
The Shulchan Aruch states this himself regarding a baal basar,I wrote in my answer
– sam
4 hours ago
@sam Thanks. I saw that, and MB goes further to include all ill people that have difficulty. However, it is unclear if it includes Sitting.
– DanF
2 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
I occasionally daven in a nursing home. One of the patients has an amputated leg. He lains (and is frequently Shaliach Tzibur ) from his wheelchair. The rav permits this.
@Sam referred to O.C. 141:1 which states that the ba'al Koreh must stand. However, see Mishnah Berurah commentary #4 which states that someone who is ill may lean a bit. I have to look further if the leaning would extend to completely sitting if one cannot even lean.
answered 6 hours ago
DanF
32.9k525121
I occasionally daven in a nursing home. One of the patients has an amputated leg. He lains (and is frequently Shaliach Tzibur ) from his wheelchair. The rav permits this.
@Sam referred to O.C. 141:1 which states that the ba'al Koreh must stand. However, see Mishnah Berurah commentary #4 which states that someone who is ill may lean a bit. I have to look further if the leaning would extend to completely sitting if one cannot even lean.
answered 6 hours ago
DanF
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DanF
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DanF
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The Shulchan Aruch states this himself regarding a baal basar,I wrote in my answer
– sam
4 hours ago
@sam Thanks. I saw that, and MB goes further to include all ill people that have difficulty. However, it is unclear if it includes Sitting.
– DanF
2 hours ago
add a comment |
The Shulchan Aruch states this himself regarding a baal basar,I wrote in my answer
– sam
4 hours ago
@sam Thanks. I saw that, and MB goes further to include all ill people that have difficulty. However, it is unclear if it includes Sitting.
– DanF
2 hours ago
The Shulchan Aruch states this himself regarding a baal basar,I wrote in my answer
– sam
4 hours ago
The Shulchan Aruch states this himself regarding a baal basar,I wrote in my answer
– sam
4 hours ago
@sam Thanks. I saw that, and MB goes further to include all ill people that have difficulty. However, it is unclear if it includes Sitting.
– DanF
2 hours ago
@sam Thanks. I saw that, and MB goes further to include all ill people that have difficulty. However, it is unclear if it includes Sitting.
– DanF
2 hours ago
add a comment |
Welcome to Mi Yoedeya. Are you assuming that in general one must stand to read at a communal reading?
– Alex
3 hours ago