exFAT vs NTFS on Linux
Situation: I need a filesystem on thumbdrives that can be used across Windows and Linux.
Problem: By default, the common FS between Windows and Linux are just exFAT and NTFS (at least in the more updated kernels)
Question: In terms of performance on Linux (since my base OS is Linux), which is a better FS?
Additional information: If there are other filesystems that you think is better and satisfies the situation, I am open to hearing it.
linux filesystems windows ntfs vfat
edited Apr 4 '17 at 6:46
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asked Apr 4 '17 at 6:37
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Situation: I need a filesystem on thumbdrives that can be used across Windows and Linux.
Problem: By default, the common FS between Windows and Linux are just exFAT and NTFS (at least in the more updated kernels)
Question: In terms of performance on Linux (since my base OS is Linux), which is a better FS?
Additional information: If there are other filesystems that you think is better and satisfies the situation, I am open to hearing it.
linux filesystems windows ntfs vfat
edited Apr 4 '17 at 6:46
DarkHeart
3,43422140
asked Apr 4 '17 at 6:37
Timothy Wong
71117
There are various factors over which file systems may differ, some of which include the methods and data structures used by the file system. There can be multiple ways of organizing your stuff in your room. Similarly, there can be multiple ways of organizing the data on a storage device. This is what allows for the existence of various different file systems. Now, we’re going to go deeper into how file systems work and explain some of their technical aspects. You can read the entire post here. exFAT vs ntfs
– Rakesh Raushan
Jul 3 at 3:02
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Situation: I need a filesystem on thumbdrives that can be used across Windows and Linux.
Problem: By default, the common FS between Windows and Linux are just exFAT and NTFS (at least in the more updated kernels)
Question: In terms of performance on Linux (since my base OS is Linux), which is a better FS?
Additional information: If there are other filesystems that you think is better and satisfies the situation, I am open to hearing it.
linux filesystems windows ntfs vfat
edited Apr 4 '17 at 6:46
DarkHeart
3,43422140
asked Apr 4 '17 at 6:37
Timothy Wong
71117
Situation: I need a filesystem on thumbdrives that can be used across Windows and Linux.
Problem: By default, the common FS between Windows and Linux are just exFAT and NTFS (at least in the more updated kernels)
Question: In terms of performance on Linux (since my base OS is Linux), which is a better FS?
Additional information: If there are other filesystems that you think is better and satisfies the situation, I am open to hearing it.
linux filesystems windows ntfs vfat
linux filesystems windows ntfs vfat
edited Apr 4 '17 at 6:46
DarkHeart
3,43422140
asked Apr 4 '17 at 6:37
Timothy Wong
71117
edited Apr 4 '17 at 6:46
DarkHeart
3,43422140
asked Apr 4 '17 at 6:37
Timothy Wong
71117
edited Apr 4 '17 at 6:46
DarkHeart
3,43422140
edited Apr 4 '17 at 6:46
DarkHeart
3,43422140
edited Apr 4 '17 at 6:46
DarkHeart
3,43422140
3,43422140
asked Apr 4 '17 at 6:37
Timothy Wong
71117
asked Apr 4 '17 at 6:37
Timothy Wong
71117
asked Apr 4 '17 at 6:37
Timothy Wong
71117
71117
There are various factors over which file systems may differ, some of which include the methods and data structures used by the file system. There can be multiple ways of organizing your stuff in your room. Similarly, there can be multiple ways of organizing the data on a storage device. This is what allows for the existence of various different file systems. Now, we’re going to go deeper into how file systems work and explain some of their technical aspects. You can read the entire post here. exFAT vs ntfs
– Rakesh Raushan
Jul 3 at 3:02
add a comment |
There are various factors over which file systems may differ, some of which include the methods and data structures used by the file system. There can be multiple ways of organizing your stuff in your room. Similarly, there can be multiple ways of organizing the data on a storage device. This is what allows for the existence of various different file systems. Now, we’re going to go deeper into how file systems work and explain some of their technical aspects. You can read the entire post here. exFAT vs ntfs
– Rakesh Raushan
Jul 3 at 3:02
There are various factors over which file systems may differ, some of which include the methods and data structures used by the file system. There can be multiple ways of organizing your stuff in your room. Similarly, there can be multiple ways of organizing the data on a storage device. This is what allows for the existence of various different file systems. Now, we’re going to go deeper into how file systems work and explain some of their technical aspects. You can read the entire post here. exFAT vs ntfs
– Rakesh Raushan
Jul 3 at 3:02
There are various factors over which file systems may differ, some of which include the methods and data structures used by the file system. There can be multiple ways of organizing your stuff in your room. Similarly, there can be multiple ways of organizing the data on a storage device. This is what allows for the existence of various different file systems. Now, we’re going to go deeper into how file systems work and explain some of their technical aspects. You can read the entire post here. exFAT vs ntfs
– Rakesh Raushan
Jul 3 at 3:02
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Both exFAT and NTFS are Microsoft proprietary filesystem. exFAT called also FAT64 it's very simple filesystem, practically an extension of FAT32, due it's simplicity it's well implemented in linux and very fast.
But due its easy structure, it's easily affected by fragmentation, so performance can easily decrease with the use.
exFAT doesn't support journaling so it's not a reliable file system, in case of corruption it's hard to repair and recover lost files.
NTFS is slower than exFAT, especially on Linux, but it's more resistant to fragmentation. Due it's proprietary nature it's not well implemented on linux as on windows, but from my experience works quite well. In case of corruption, NTFS can easily repaired under windows and there are lots of tools able to recover lost files.
Personally I prefer NTFS for its reliability. Another option is to use ext4, and mount under Windows with extfsd, ext4 it's better on linux, but the driver it's not well implemented on Windows. Extfsd doesn't full support journaling, so there is a risk to write under windows, but ext is easy to repair under linux than exFAT.
edited Jul 3 at 3:08
slm♦
246k66507673
answered Apr 4 '17 at 14:47
Stefano Balzarotti
20518
2
"In case of corruption, NTFS can easily repaired under windows and there are lots of tools able to recover lost files" This sentence could be misunderstood as stating that you would need Windows to recover the files, which is not really the case. :) Also, another good point of NTFS vs exFAT is that some devices like older Smart TVs do not support exFAT while they support NTFS.
– Andrea Lazzarotto
Apr 6 '17 at 15:08
@AndreaLazzarotto, true, but personally I do not trust to repair NTFS on Linux.
– Stefano Balzarotti
Apr 6 '17 at 15:37
I was talking about recovering, not repairing. :P
– Andrea Lazzarotto
Apr 6 '17 at 16:56
Are things any better now regarding the support of NTFS on Linux?
– Royi
May 13 at 11:43
@royi I use NTFS on Linux by years and I never had problems. But this is only a personal experience. NTFS is a proprietary file system and I find myself unable to say that is safe on Linux. In any case as I said NTFS is journaled and it's easy to repair and recover data losses.
– Stefano Balzarotti
May 14 at 17:11
add a comment |
I suggest you give UDF a try. UDF is an open, vendor-neutral file system that was originally designed for use on optical disks, but can be used R/W on other drives too, including USB drives. UDF supports a maximum file system size of 2 TB (with a block size of 512 bytes), it supports long Unicode file names, and keeps record of file times.
Windows apparently requires the disk to be partitioned, and the file system should be created with media type hd and a block size of 512:
mkudffs --media-type=hd --blocksize=512 /dev/sdxN
answered Apr 4 '17 at 8:32
Johan Myréen
7,33611423
Say if now I compare UDF with exFAT would there be a performace diference?
– Timothy Wong
Apr 4 '17 at 13:09
1
Sorry, I don't have any performance figures.
– Johan Myréen
Apr 4 '17 at 16:02
2
I suggest to read this: askubuntu.com/questions/27936/…
– Stefano Balzarotti
Apr 5 '17 at 20:51
I don't have any of the interoperability problems between Linux and Windows user Argo reported on askubuntu.com. UDF drive formatted on Linux: works on Windows 7, Windows Server 2012 R2, and Windows 10. UDF drive formatted on Windows 10: works on Linux. I tried with both a 8GB USB stick and an external hard drive. The drives have GPT partition tables. I don't have a Mac to try this on.
– Johan Myréen
Apr 7 '17 at 11:43
1
I am strongly against using UDF under any circumstances even if it is sort of a decent cross-platform fs. First, if you format the whole disk as UDF, only Linux and Mac will recognize the drive, but not Windows, if you format a partition, Windows will work but Mac will fail. Second, both Linux and Mac lack fs checking and repairing tools for UDF, and I also not sure the one from Win would actually work. If you care about data safety, don't use UDF at all.Third there are also some compatibles issues between different versions of UDF across different OSs.
– Meow
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I, unlike the other answerers, use exFAT. I'm not an overly serious user, but it is a bit annoying to have to install exfat-fuse on a fresh install.
An additional benefit of NTFS is full support in the best partition manager, gParted. Find out more at https://gparted.org/features.php
That's why I'll switch to NTFS soon for my 110GB internal Shared partition which I need to access from Linux distros and Windows 10.
As for EXT4, Ext2Fsd is not my favourite tool, and it's not easy to use.
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Situation: I need a filesystem on thumbdrives that can be used across Windows and Linux.
Problem: By default, the common FS between Windows and Linux are just exFAT and NTFS.
what you need in linux is ntfs-3g from tuxera.com. It is open-source, and included with many linux distributions, however...
Being a SLES 11.4, and RHEL 6.9 to 7.6 user, my experience with windows 10 is that something has changed in how the NTFS system is done (compared to win7) where older versions of ntfs-3g which come with your linux distro do not work with NTFS coming from win10. So you need to download and install the latest version which currently is ntfs-3g_ntfsprogs-2017.3.23, released on March 28, 2017 from their website; with that then having NTFS formatted drives coming from Windows 10 (as opposed to win7) works without issue.
- Like was said using
EXT2FSDon windows to read linux EXT file systems is not great, nor does it help if you use BTRFS or XFS. I also found it to be problematic. Definitely better/easier to makelinux read NFTSrather thanwindows read linux filesystems.
Depending on what you are doing using EXFAT may be fine and is widely compatible: I am not aware of any linux distro that doesn't support it. If you are a casual user... handful of various data files (like .mkv movie files, .doc, .xls, .ppt, .txt, .jpg) to go between windows, linux, your tv then no worries with exfat.- Real problem arises when you have an operating system disk that is win 7/8/10 which must be NTFS (can't be exfat) and you cannot change that so how do you mount it as read/write in linux? Answer is latest version ntfs-3g. My tv now reads a 32gb usb formatted as NTFS.
- I routinely boot my work oriented computer using a linux disk on sata-1 while having my win10 home SSD on sata-0; and have linux via ntfs-3g mount my win10 disk so I can read/write files when convenient; with the latest ntfs-3g I have had no problems with win10 booting afterwards provided win10 fast startup is off or unchecked otherwise a common result was the ntfs dirty flag getting set resulting in a disk check on windows boot.
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Both exFAT and NTFS are Microsoft proprietary filesystem. exFAT called also FAT64 it's very simple filesystem, practically an extension of FAT32, due it's simplicity it's well implemented in linux and very fast.
But due its easy structure, it's easily affected by fragmentation, so performance can easily decrease with the use.
exFAT doesn't support journaling so it's not a reliable file system, in case of corruption it's hard to repair and recover lost files.
NTFS is slower than exFAT, especially on Linux, but it's more resistant to fragmentation. Due it's proprietary nature it's not well implemented on linux as on windows, but from my experience works quite well. In case of corruption, NTFS can easily repaired under windows and there are lots of tools able to recover lost files.
Personally I prefer NTFS for its reliability. Another option is to use ext4, and mount under Windows with extfsd, ext4 it's better on linux, but the driver it's not well implemented on Windows. Extfsd doesn't full support journaling, so there is a risk to write under windows, but ext is easy to repair under linux than exFAT.
edited Jul 3 at 3:08
slm♦
246k66507673
answered Apr 4 '17 at 14:47
Stefano Balzarotti
20518
2
"In case of corruption, NTFS can easily repaired under windows and there are lots of tools able to recover lost files" This sentence could be misunderstood as stating that you would need Windows to recover the files, which is not really the case. :) Also, another good point of NTFS vs exFAT is that some devices like older Smart TVs do not support exFAT while they support NTFS.
– Andrea Lazzarotto
Apr 6 '17 at 15:08
@AndreaLazzarotto, true, but personally I do not trust to repair NTFS on Linux.
– Stefano Balzarotti
Apr 6 '17 at 15:37
I was talking about recovering, not repairing. :P
– Andrea Lazzarotto
Apr 6 '17 at 16:56
Are things any better now regarding the support of NTFS on Linux?
– Royi
May 13 at 11:43
@royi I use NTFS on Linux by years and I never had problems. But this is only a personal experience. NTFS is a proprietary file system and I find myself unable to say that is safe on Linux. In any case as I said NTFS is journaled and it's easy to repair and recover data losses.
– Stefano Balzarotti
May 14 at 17:11
add a comment |
Both exFAT and NTFS are Microsoft proprietary filesystem. exFAT called also FAT64 it's very simple filesystem, practically an extension of FAT32, due it's simplicity it's well implemented in linux and very fast.
But due its easy structure, it's easily affected by fragmentation, so performance can easily decrease with the use.
exFAT doesn't support journaling so it's not a reliable file system, in case of corruption it's hard to repair and recover lost files.
NTFS is slower than exFAT, especially on Linux, but it's more resistant to fragmentation. Due it's proprietary nature it's not well implemented on linux as on windows, but from my experience works quite well. In case of corruption, NTFS can easily repaired under windows and there are lots of tools able to recover lost files.
Personally I prefer NTFS for its reliability. Another option is to use ext4, and mount under Windows with extfsd, ext4 it's better on linux, but the driver it's not well implemented on Windows. Extfsd doesn't full support journaling, so there is a risk to write under windows, but ext is easy to repair under linux than exFAT.
edited Jul 3 at 3:08
slm♦
246k66507673
answered Apr 4 '17 at 14:47
Stefano Balzarotti
20518
2
"In case of corruption, NTFS can easily repaired under windows and there are lots of tools able to recover lost files" This sentence could be misunderstood as stating that you would need Windows to recover the files, which is not really the case. :) Also, another good point of NTFS vs exFAT is that some devices like older Smart TVs do not support exFAT while they support NTFS.
– Andrea Lazzarotto
Apr 6 '17 at 15:08
@AndreaLazzarotto, true, but personally I do not trust to repair NTFS on Linux.
– Stefano Balzarotti
Apr 6 '17 at 15:37
I was talking about recovering, not repairing. :P
– Andrea Lazzarotto
Apr 6 '17 at 16:56
Are things any better now regarding the support of NTFS on Linux?
– Royi
May 13 at 11:43
@royi I use NTFS on Linux by years and I never had problems. But this is only a personal experience. NTFS is a proprietary file system and I find myself unable to say that is safe on Linux. In any case as I said NTFS is journaled and it's easy to repair and recover data losses.
– Stefano Balzarotti
May 14 at 17:11
add a comment |
Both exFAT and NTFS are Microsoft proprietary filesystem. exFAT called also FAT64 it's very simple filesystem, practically an extension of FAT32, due it's simplicity it's well implemented in linux and very fast.
But due its easy structure, it's easily affected by fragmentation, so performance can easily decrease with the use.
exFAT doesn't support journaling so it's not a reliable file system, in case of corruption it's hard to repair and recover lost files.
NTFS is slower than exFAT, especially on Linux, but it's more resistant to fragmentation. Due it's proprietary nature it's not well implemented on linux as on windows, but from my experience works quite well. In case of corruption, NTFS can easily repaired under windows and there are lots of tools able to recover lost files.
Personally I prefer NTFS for its reliability. Another option is to use ext4, and mount under Windows with extfsd, ext4 it's better on linux, but the driver it's not well implemented on Windows. Extfsd doesn't full support journaling, so there is a risk to write under windows, but ext is easy to repair under linux than exFAT.
edited Jul 3 at 3:08
slm♦
246k66507673
answered Apr 4 '17 at 14:47
Stefano Balzarotti
20518
Both exFAT and NTFS are Microsoft proprietary filesystem. exFAT called also FAT64 it's very simple filesystem, practically an extension of FAT32, due it's simplicity it's well implemented in linux and very fast.
But due its easy structure, it's easily affected by fragmentation, so performance can easily decrease with the use.
exFAT doesn't support journaling so it's not a reliable file system, in case of corruption it's hard to repair and recover lost files.
NTFS is slower than exFAT, especially on Linux, but it's more resistant to fragmentation. Due it's proprietary nature it's not well implemented on linux as on windows, but from my experience works quite well. In case of corruption, NTFS can easily repaired under windows and there are lots of tools able to recover lost files.
Personally I prefer NTFS for its reliability. Another option is to use ext4, and mount under Windows with extfsd, ext4 it's better on linux, but the driver it's not well implemented on Windows. Extfsd doesn't full support journaling, so there is a risk to write under windows, but ext is easy to repair under linux than exFAT.
edited Jul 3 at 3:08
slm♦
246k66507673
answered Apr 4 '17 at 14:47
Stefano Balzarotti
20518
edited Jul 3 at 3:08
slm♦
246k66507673
edited Jul 3 at 3:08
slm♦
246k66507673
edited Jul 3 at 3:08
slm♦
246k66507673
246k66507673
answered Apr 4 '17 at 14:47
Stefano Balzarotti
20518
answered Apr 4 '17 at 14:47
Stefano Balzarotti
20518
answered Apr 4 '17 at 14:47
Stefano Balzarotti
20518
20518
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"In case of corruption, NTFS can easily repaired under windows and there are lots of tools able to recover lost files" This sentence could be misunderstood as stating that you would need Windows to recover the files, which is not really the case. :) Also, another good point of NTFS vs exFAT is that some devices like older Smart TVs do not support exFAT while they support NTFS.
– Andrea Lazzarotto
Apr 6 '17 at 15:08
@AndreaLazzarotto, true, but personally I do not trust to repair NTFS on Linux.
– Stefano Balzarotti
Apr 6 '17 at 15:37
I was talking about recovering, not repairing. :P
– Andrea Lazzarotto
Apr 6 '17 at 16:56
Are things any better now regarding the support of NTFS on Linux?
– Royi
May 13 at 11:43
@royi I use NTFS on Linux by years and I never had problems. But this is only a personal experience. NTFS is a proprietary file system and I find myself unable to say that is safe on Linux. In any case as I said NTFS is journaled and it's easy to repair and recover data losses.
– Stefano Balzarotti
May 14 at 17:11
add a comment |
2
"In case of corruption, NTFS can easily repaired under windows and there are lots of tools able to recover lost files" This sentence could be misunderstood as stating that you would need Windows to recover the files, which is not really the case. :) Also, another good point of NTFS vs exFAT is that some devices like older Smart TVs do not support exFAT while they support NTFS.
– Andrea Lazzarotto
Apr 6 '17 at 15:08
@AndreaLazzarotto, true, but personally I do not trust to repair NTFS on Linux.
– Stefano Balzarotti
Apr 6 '17 at 15:37
I was talking about recovering, not repairing. :P
– Andrea Lazzarotto
Apr 6 '17 at 16:56
Are things any better now regarding the support of NTFS on Linux?
– Royi
May 13 at 11:43
@royi I use NTFS on Linux by years and I never had problems. But this is only a personal experience. NTFS is a proprietary file system and I find myself unable to say that is safe on Linux. In any case as I said NTFS is journaled and it's easy to repair and recover data losses.
– Stefano Balzarotti
May 14 at 17:11
2
2
"In case of corruption, NTFS can easily repaired under windows and there are lots of tools able to recover lost files" This sentence could be misunderstood as stating that you would need Windows to recover the files, which is not really the case. :) Also, another good point of NTFS vs exFAT is that some devices like older Smart TVs do not support exFAT while they support NTFS.
– Andrea Lazzarotto
Apr 6 '17 at 15:08
"In case of corruption, NTFS can easily repaired under windows and there are lots of tools able to recover lost files" This sentence could be misunderstood as stating that you would need Windows to recover the files, which is not really the case. :) Also, another good point of NTFS vs exFAT is that some devices like older Smart TVs do not support exFAT while they support NTFS.
– Andrea Lazzarotto
Apr 6 '17 at 15:08
@AndreaLazzarotto, true, but personally I do not trust to repair NTFS on Linux.
– Stefano Balzarotti
Apr 6 '17 at 15:37
@AndreaLazzarotto, true, but personally I do not trust to repair NTFS on Linux.
– Stefano Balzarotti
Apr 6 '17 at 15:37
I was talking about recovering, not repairing. :P
– Andrea Lazzarotto
Apr 6 '17 at 16:56
I was talking about recovering, not repairing. :P
– Andrea Lazzarotto
Apr 6 '17 at 16:56
Are things any better now regarding the support of NTFS on Linux?
– Royi
May 13 at 11:43
Are things any better now regarding the support of NTFS on Linux?
– Royi
May 13 at 11:43
@royi I use NTFS on Linux by years and I never had problems. But this is only a personal experience. NTFS is a proprietary file system and I find myself unable to say that is safe on Linux. In any case as I said NTFS is journaled and it's easy to repair and recover data losses.
– Stefano Balzarotti
May 14 at 17:11
@royi I use NTFS on Linux by years and I never had problems. But this is only a personal experience. NTFS is a proprietary file system and I find myself unable to say that is safe on Linux. In any case as I said NTFS is journaled and it's easy to repair and recover data losses.
– Stefano Balzarotti
May 14 at 17:11
add a comment |
I suggest you give UDF a try. UDF is an open, vendor-neutral file system that was originally designed for use on optical disks, but can be used R/W on other drives too, including USB drives. UDF supports a maximum file system size of 2 TB (with a block size of 512 bytes), it supports long Unicode file names, and keeps record of file times.
Windows apparently requires the disk to be partitioned, and the file system should be created with media type hd and a block size of 512:
mkudffs --media-type=hd --blocksize=512 /dev/sdxN
answered Apr 4 '17 at 8:32
Johan Myréen
7,33611423
Say if now I compare UDF with exFAT would there be a performace diference?
– Timothy Wong
Apr 4 '17 at 13:09
1
Sorry, I don't have any performance figures.
– Johan Myréen
Apr 4 '17 at 16:02
2
I suggest to read this: askubuntu.com/questions/27936/…
– Stefano Balzarotti
Apr 5 '17 at 20:51
I don't have any of the interoperability problems between Linux and Windows user Argo reported on askubuntu.com. UDF drive formatted on Linux: works on Windows 7, Windows Server 2012 R2, and Windows 10. UDF drive formatted on Windows 10: works on Linux. I tried with both a 8GB USB stick and an external hard drive. The drives have GPT partition tables. I don't have a Mac to try this on.
– Johan Myréen
Apr 7 '17 at 11:43
1
I am strongly against using UDF under any circumstances even if it is sort of a decent cross-platform fs. First, if you format the whole disk as UDF, only Linux and Mac will recognize the drive, but not Windows, if you format a partition, Windows will work but Mac will fail. Second, both Linux and Mac lack fs checking and repairing tools for UDF, and I also not sure the one from Win would actually work. If you care about data safety, don't use UDF at all.Third there are also some compatibles issues between different versions of UDF across different OSs.
– Meow
Apr 22 at 13:14
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show 1 more comment
I suggest you give UDF a try. UDF is an open, vendor-neutral file system that was originally designed for use on optical disks, but can be used R/W on other drives too, including USB drives. UDF supports a maximum file system size of 2 TB (with a block size of 512 bytes), it supports long Unicode file names, and keeps record of file times.
Windows apparently requires the disk to be partitioned, and the file system should be created with media type hd and a block size of 512:
mkudffs --media-type=hd --blocksize=512 /dev/sdxN
answered Apr 4 '17 at 8:32
Johan Myréen
7,33611423
Say if now I compare UDF with exFAT would there be a performace diference?
– Timothy Wong
Apr 4 '17 at 13:09
1
Sorry, I don't have any performance figures.
– Johan Myréen
Apr 4 '17 at 16:02
2
I suggest to read this: askubuntu.com/questions/27936/…
– Stefano Balzarotti
Apr 5 '17 at 20:51
I don't have any of the interoperability problems between Linux and Windows user Argo reported on askubuntu.com. UDF drive formatted on Linux: works on Windows 7, Windows Server 2012 R2, and Windows 10. UDF drive formatted on Windows 10: works on Linux. I tried with both a 8GB USB stick and an external hard drive. The drives have GPT partition tables. I don't have a Mac to try this on.
– Johan Myréen
Apr 7 '17 at 11:43
1
I am strongly against using UDF under any circumstances even if it is sort of a decent cross-platform fs. First, if you format the whole disk as UDF, only Linux and Mac will recognize the drive, but not Windows, if you format a partition, Windows will work but Mac will fail. Second, both Linux and Mac lack fs checking and repairing tools for UDF, and I also not sure the one from Win would actually work. If you care about data safety, don't use UDF at all.Third there are also some compatibles issues between different versions of UDF across different OSs.
– Meow
Apr 22 at 13:14
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I suggest you give UDF a try. UDF is an open, vendor-neutral file system that was originally designed for use on optical disks, but can be used R/W on other drives too, including USB drives. UDF supports a maximum file system size of 2 TB (with a block size of 512 bytes), it supports long Unicode file names, and keeps record of file times.
Windows apparently requires the disk to be partitioned, and the file system should be created with media type hd and a block size of 512:
mkudffs --media-type=hd --blocksize=512 /dev/sdxN
answered Apr 4 '17 at 8:32
Johan Myréen
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I suggest you give UDF a try. UDF is an open, vendor-neutral file system that was originally designed for use on optical disks, but can be used R/W on other drives too, including USB drives. UDF supports a maximum file system size of 2 TB (with a block size of 512 bytes), it supports long Unicode file names, and keeps record of file times.
Windows apparently requires the disk to be partitioned, and the file system should be created with media type hd and a block size of 512:
mkudffs --media-type=hd --blocksize=512 /dev/sdxN
answered Apr 4 '17 at 8:32
Johan Myréen
7,33611423
answered Apr 4 '17 at 8:32
Johan Myréen
7,33611423
answered Apr 4 '17 at 8:32
Johan Myréen
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answered Apr 4 '17 at 8:32
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Say if now I compare UDF with exFAT would there be a performace diference?
– Timothy Wong
Apr 4 '17 at 13:09
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Sorry, I don't have any performance figures.
– Johan Myréen
Apr 4 '17 at 16:02
2
I suggest to read this: askubuntu.com/questions/27936/…
– Stefano Balzarotti
Apr 5 '17 at 20:51
I don't have any of the interoperability problems between Linux and Windows user Argo reported on askubuntu.com. UDF drive formatted on Linux: works on Windows 7, Windows Server 2012 R2, and Windows 10. UDF drive formatted on Windows 10: works on Linux. I tried with both a 8GB USB stick and an external hard drive. The drives have GPT partition tables. I don't have a Mac to try this on.
– Johan Myréen
Apr 7 '17 at 11:43
1
I am strongly against using UDF under any circumstances even if it is sort of a decent cross-platform fs. First, if you format the whole disk as UDF, only Linux and Mac will recognize the drive, but not Windows, if you format a partition, Windows will work but Mac will fail. Second, both Linux and Mac lack fs checking and repairing tools for UDF, and I also not sure the one from Win would actually work. If you care about data safety, don't use UDF at all.Third there are also some compatibles issues between different versions of UDF across different OSs.
– Meow
Apr 22 at 13:14
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Say if now I compare UDF with exFAT would there be a performace diference?
– Timothy Wong
Apr 4 '17 at 13:09
1
Sorry, I don't have any performance figures.
– Johan Myréen
Apr 4 '17 at 16:02
2
I suggest to read this: askubuntu.com/questions/27936/…
– Stefano Balzarotti
Apr 5 '17 at 20:51
I don't have any of the interoperability problems between Linux and Windows user Argo reported on askubuntu.com. UDF drive formatted on Linux: works on Windows 7, Windows Server 2012 R2, and Windows 10. UDF drive formatted on Windows 10: works on Linux. I tried with both a 8GB USB stick and an external hard drive. The drives have GPT partition tables. I don't have a Mac to try this on.
– Johan Myréen
Apr 7 '17 at 11:43
1
I am strongly against using UDF under any circumstances even if it is sort of a decent cross-platform fs. First, if you format the whole disk as UDF, only Linux and Mac will recognize the drive, but not Windows, if you format a partition, Windows will work but Mac will fail. Second, both Linux and Mac lack fs checking and repairing tools for UDF, and I also not sure the one from Win would actually work. If you care about data safety, don't use UDF at all.Third there are also some compatibles issues between different versions of UDF across different OSs.
– Meow
Apr 22 at 13:14
Say if now I compare UDF with exFAT would there be a performace diference?
– Timothy Wong
Apr 4 '17 at 13:09
Say if now I compare UDF with exFAT would there be a performace diference?
– Timothy Wong
Apr 4 '17 at 13:09
1
1
Sorry, I don't have any performance figures.
– Johan Myréen
Apr 4 '17 at 16:02
Sorry, I don't have any performance figures.
– Johan Myréen
Apr 4 '17 at 16:02
2
2
I suggest to read this: askubuntu.com/questions/27936/…
– Stefano Balzarotti
Apr 5 '17 at 20:51
I suggest to read this: askubuntu.com/questions/27936/…
– Stefano Balzarotti
Apr 5 '17 at 20:51
I don't have any of the interoperability problems between Linux and Windows user Argo reported on askubuntu.com. UDF drive formatted on Linux: works on Windows 7, Windows Server 2012 R2, and Windows 10. UDF drive formatted on Windows 10: works on Linux. I tried with both a 8GB USB stick and an external hard drive. The drives have GPT partition tables. I don't have a Mac to try this on.
– Johan Myréen
Apr 7 '17 at 11:43
I don't have any of the interoperability problems between Linux and Windows user Argo reported on askubuntu.com. UDF drive formatted on Linux: works on Windows 7, Windows Server 2012 R2, and Windows 10. UDF drive formatted on Windows 10: works on Linux. I tried with both a 8GB USB stick and an external hard drive. The drives have GPT partition tables. I don't have a Mac to try this on.
– Johan Myréen
Apr 7 '17 at 11:43
1
1
I am strongly against using UDF under any circumstances even if it is sort of a decent cross-platform fs. First, if you format the whole disk as UDF, only Linux and Mac will recognize the drive, but not Windows, if you format a partition, Windows will work but Mac will fail. Second, both Linux and Mac lack fs checking and repairing tools for UDF, and I also not sure the one from Win would actually work. If you care about data safety, don't use UDF at all.Third there are also some compatibles issues between different versions of UDF across different OSs.
– Meow
Apr 22 at 13:14
I am strongly against using UDF under any circumstances even if it is sort of a decent cross-platform fs. First, if you format the whole disk as UDF, only Linux and Mac will recognize the drive, but not Windows, if you format a partition, Windows will work but Mac will fail. Second, both Linux and Mac lack fs checking and repairing tools for UDF, and I also not sure the one from Win would actually work. If you care about data safety, don't use UDF at all.Third there are also some compatibles issues between different versions of UDF across different OSs.
– Meow
Apr 22 at 13:14
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I, unlike the other answerers, use exFAT. I'm not an overly serious user, but it is a bit annoying to have to install exfat-fuse on a fresh install.
An additional benefit of NTFS is full support in the best partition manager, gParted. Find out more at https://gparted.org/features.php
That's why I'll switch to NTFS soon for my 110GB internal Shared partition which I need to access from Linux distros and Windows 10.
As for EXT4, Ext2Fsd is not my favourite tool, and it's not easy to use.
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I, unlike the other answerers, use exFAT. I'm not an overly serious user, but it is a bit annoying to have to install exfat-fuse on a fresh install.
An additional benefit of NTFS is full support in the best partition manager, gParted. Find out more at https://gparted.org/features.php
That's why I'll switch to NTFS soon for my 110GB internal Shared partition which I need to access from Linux distros and Windows 10.
As for EXT4, Ext2Fsd is not my favourite tool, and it's not easy to use.
answered yesterday
R Harrington
12
add a comment |
I, unlike the other answerers, use exFAT. I'm not an overly serious user, but it is a bit annoying to have to install exfat-fuse on a fresh install.
An additional benefit of NTFS is full support in the best partition manager, gParted. Find out more at https://gparted.org/features.php
That's why I'll switch to NTFS soon for my 110GB internal Shared partition which I need to access from Linux distros and Windows 10.
As for EXT4, Ext2Fsd is not my favourite tool, and it's not easy to use.
answered yesterday
R Harrington
12
I, unlike the other answerers, use exFAT. I'm not an overly serious user, but it is a bit annoying to have to install exfat-fuse on a fresh install.
An additional benefit of NTFS is full support in the best partition manager, gParted. Find out more at https://gparted.org/features.php
That's why I'll switch to NTFS soon for my 110GB internal Shared partition which I need to access from Linux distros and Windows 10.
As for EXT4, Ext2Fsd is not my favourite tool, and it's not easy to use.
answered yesterday
R Harrington
12
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R Harrington
12
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R Harrington
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R Harrington
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Situation: I need a filesystem on thumbdrives that can be used across Windows and Linux.
Problem: By default, the common FS between Windows and Linux are just exFAT and NTFS.
what you need in linux is ntfs-3g from tuxera.com. It is open-source, and included with many linux distributions, however...
Being a SLES 11.4, and RHEL 6.9 to 7.6 user, my experience with windows 10 is that something has changed in how the NTFS system is done (compared to win7) where older versions of ntfs-3g which come with your linux distro do not work with NTFS coming from win10. So you need to download and install the latest version which currently is ntfs-3g_ntfsprogs-2017.3.23, released on March 28, 2017 from their website; with that then having NTFS formatted drives coming from Windows 10 (as opposed to win7) works without issue.
- Like was said using
EXT2FSDon windows to read linux EXT file systems is not great, nor does it help if you use BTRFS or XFS. I also found it to be problematic. Definitely better/easier to makelinux read NFTSrather thanwindows read linux filesystems.
Depending on what you are doing using EXFAT may be fine and is widely compatible: I am not aware of any linux distro that doesn't support it. If you are a casual user... handful of various data files (like .mkv movie files, .doc, .xls, .ppt, .txt, .jpg) to go between windows, linux, your tv then no worries with exfat.- Real problem arises when you have an operating system disk that is win 7/8/10 which must be NTFS (can't be exfat) and you cannot change that so how do you mount it as read/write in linux? Answer is latest version ntfs-3g. My tv now reads a 32gb usb formatted as NTFS.
- I routinely boot my work oriented computer using a linux disk on sata-1 while having my win10 home SSD on sata-0; and have linux via ntfs-3g mount my win10 disk so I can read/write files when convenient; with the latest ntfs-3g I have had no problems with win10 booting afterwards provided win10 fast startup is off or unchecked otherwise a common result was the ntfs dirty flag getting set resulting in a disk check on windows boot.
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Situation: I need a filesystem on thumbdrives that can be used across Windows and Linux.
Problem: By default, the common FS between Windows and Linux are just exFAT and NTFS.
what you need in linux is ntfs-3g from tuxera.com. It is open-source, and included with many linux distributions, however...
Being a SLES 11.4, and RHEL 6.9 to 7.6 user, my experience with windows 10 is that something has changed in how the NTFS system is done (compared to win7) where older versions of ntfs-3g which come with your linux distro do not work with NTFS coming from win10. So you need to download and install the latest version which currently is ntfs-3g_ntfsprogs-2017.3.23, released on March 28, 2017 from their website; with that then having NTFS formatted drives coming from Windows 10 (as opposed to win7) works without issue.
- Like was said using
EXT2FSDon windows to read linux EXT file systems is not great, nor does it help if you use BTRFS or XFS. I also found it to be problematic. Definitely better/easier to makelinux read NFTSrather thanwindows read linux filesystems.
Depending on what you are doing using EXFAT may be fine and is widely compatible: I am not aware of any linux distro that doesn't support it. If you are a casual user... handful of various data files (like .mkv movie files, .doc, .xls, .ppt, .txt, .jpg) to go between windows, linux, your tv then no worries with exfat.- Real problem arises when you have an operating system disk that is win 7/8/10 which must be NTFS (can't be exfat) and you cannot change that so how do you mount it as read/write in linux? Answer is latest version ntfs-3g. My tv now reads a 32gb usb formatted as NTFS.
- I routinely boot my work oriented computer using a linux disk on sata-1 while having my win10 home SSD on sata-0; and have linux via ntfs-3g mount my win10 disk so I can read/write files when convenient; with the latest ntfs-3g I have had no problems with win10 booting afterwards provided win10 fast startup is off or unchecked otherwise a common result was the ntfs dirty flag getting set resulting in a disk check on windows boot.
answered yesterday
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Situation: I need a filesystem on thumbdrives that can be used across Windows and Linux.
Problem: By default, the common FS between Windows and Linux are just exFAT and NTFS.
what you need in linux is ntfs-3g from tuxera.com. It is open-source, and included with many linux distributions, however...
Being a SLES 11.4, and RHEL 6.9 to 7.6 user, my experience with windows 10 is that something has changed in how the NTFS system is done (compared to win7) where older versions of ntfs-3g which come with your linux distro do not work with NTFS coming from win10. So you need to download and install the latest version which currently is ntfs-3g_ntfsprogs-2017.3.23, released on March 28, 2017 from their website; with that then having NTFS formatted drives coming from Windows 10 (as opposed to win7) works without issue.
- Like was said using
EXT2FSDon windows to read linux EXT file systems is not great, nor does it help if you use BTRFS or XFS. I also found it to be problematic. Definitely better/easier to makelinux read NFTSrather thanwindows read linux filesystems.
Depending on what you are doing using EXFAT may be fine and is widely compatible: I am not aware of any linux distro that doesn't support it. If you are a casual user... handful of various data files (like .mkv movie files, .doc, .xls, .ppt, .txt, .jpg) to go between windows, linux, your tv then no worries with exfat.- Real problem arises when you have an operating system disk that is win 7/8/10 which must be NTFS (can't be exfat) and you cannot change that so how do you mount it as read/write in linux? Answer is latest version ntfs-3g. My tv now reads a 32gb usb formatted as NTFS.
- I routinely boot my work oriented computer using a linux disk on sata-1 while having my win10 home SSD on sata-0; and have linux via ntfs-3g mount my win10 disk so I can read/write files when convenient; with the latest ntfs-3g I have had no problems with win10 booting afterwards provided win10 fast startup is off or unchecked otherwise a common result was the ntfs dirty flag getting set resulting in a disk check on windows boot.
answered yesterday
ron
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Situation: I need a filesystem on thumbdrives that can be used across Windows and Linux.
Problem: By default, the common FS between Windows and Linux are just exFAT and NTFS.
what you need in linux is ntfs-3g from tuxera.com. It is open-source, and included with many linux distributions, however...
Being a SLES 11.4, and RHEL 6.9 to 7.6 user, my experience with windows 10 is that something has changed in how the NTFS system is done (compared to win7) where older versions of ntfs-3g which come with your linux distro do not work with NTFS coming from win10. So you need to download and install the latest version which currently is ntfs-3g_ntfsprogs-2017.3.23, released on March 28, 2017 from their website; with that then having NTFS formatted drives coming from Windows 10 (as opposed to win7) works without issue.
- Like was said using
EXT2FSDon windows to read linux EXT file systems is not great, nor does it help if you use BTRFS or XFS. I also found it to be problematic. Definitely better/easier to makelinux read NFTSrather thanwindows read linux filesystems.
Depending on what you are doing using EXFAT may be fine and is widely compatible: I am not aware of any linux distro that doesn't support it. If you are a casual user... handful of various data files (like .mkv movie files, .doc, .xls, .ppt, .txt, .jpg) to go between windows, linux, your tv then no worries with exfat.- Real problem arises when you have an operating system disk that is win 7/8/10 which must be NTFS (can't be exfat) and you cannot change that so how do you mount it as read/write in linux? Answer is latest version ntfs-3g. My tv now reads a 32gb usb formatted as NTFS.
- I routinely boot my work oriented computer using a linux disk on sata-1 while having my win10 home SSD on sata-0; and have linux via ntfs-3g mount my win10 disk so I can read/write files when convenient; with the latest ntfs-3g I have had no problems with win10 booting afterwards provided win10 fast startup is off or unchecked otherwise a common result was the ntfs dirty flag getting set resulting in a disk check on windows boot.
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