Is there a way to prevent root user from modifing kernel and boot loader?











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Suppose that a regular linux machine is compromised by an attacker who obtained a root shell, he can modify the system kernel or modify boot loader to load another kernel.



Is there a way to prevent such modifications?



I want to disable such things for a regular linux os (not a container) installed on a regular pc with only one regular hard disk. I don't want to use read only mediums like cdrom.



A rough theoretical solution is to patch kernel to disallow modifications to MBR plus another area of hard disk (maybe a partition) and store kernel and boot loader files in that area.










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    UEFI secure boot, if that's supported by your "regular PC".
    – Michael Homer
    Dec 2 at 8:03










  • UEFI secure boot only detects the changes on reboot, it does not prevent. I'm looking for another solution.
    – gopy
    Dec 2 at 8:59










  • No you really can not limit root on a running os. If an intruder had physical or root access they can do what they wish. You can, however, use non root users rather than the root account. The only potential protections, imo, from exploits are keeping your system up to date and selinux ( selinux is not fool proof). You can read any linux security book or further hardening guides.
    – Panther
    Dec 2 at 16:12










  • It certainly prevents the “modify the boot loader to load another kernel” case, in that it won’t load another kernel, and module signing prevents injection into the running kernel. I’m not sure what your model is here.
    – Michael Homer
    Dec 2 at 17:03












  • @Panther I understand that root can do anything, but I mean to add changes to kernel that prevent root from doing the above mentioned actions. You advised to read about hardening methods, but I am looking for a new hardening method. It is a new layer of protection.
    – gopy
    Dec 2 at 17:27















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Suppose that a regular linux machine is compromised by an attacker who obtained a root shell, he can modify the system kernel or modify boot loader to load another kernel.



Is there a way to prevent such modifications?



I want to disable such things for a regular linux os (not a container) installed on a regular pc with only one regular hard disk. I don't want to use read only mediums like cdrom.



A rough theoretical solution is to patch kernel to disallow modifications to MBR plus another area of hard disk (maybe a partition) and store kernel and boot loader files in that area.










share|improve this question


















  • 1




    UEFI secure boot, if that's supported by your "regular PC".
    – Michael Homer
    Dec 2 at 8:03










  • UEFI secure boot only detects the changes on reboot, it does not prevent. I'm looking for another solution.
    – gopy
    Dec 2 at 8:59










  • No you really can not limit root on a running os. If an intruder had physical or root access they can do what they wish. You can, however, use non root users rather than the root account. The only potential protections, imo, from exploits are keeping your system up to date and selinux ( selinux is not fool proof). You can read any linux security book or further hardening guides.
    – Panther
    Dec 2 at 16:12










  • It certainly prevents the “modify the boot loader to load another kernel” case, in that it won’t load another kernel, and module signing prevents injection into the running kernel. I’m not sure what your model is here.
    – Michael Homer
    Dec 2 at 17:03












  • @Panther I understand that root can do anything, but I mean to add changes to kernel that prevent root from doing the above mentioned actions. You advised to read about hardening methods, but I am looking for a new hardening method. It is a new layer of protection.
    – gopy
    Dec 2 at 17:27













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Suppose that a regular linux machine is compromised by an attacker who obtained a root shell, he can modify the system kernel or modify boot loader to load another kernel.



Is there a way to prevent such modifications?



I want to disable such things for a regular linux os (not a container) installed on a regular pc with only one regular hard disk. I don't want to use read only mediums like cdrom.



A rough theoretical solution is to patch kernel to disallow modifications to MBR plus another area of hard disk (maybe a partition) and store kernel and boot loader files in that area.










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Suppose that a regular linux machine is compromised by an attacker who obtained a root shell, he can modify the system kernel or modify boot loader to load another kernel.



Is there a way to prevent such modifications?



I want to disable such things for a regular linux os (not a container) installed on a regular pc with only one regular hard disk. I don't want to use read only mediums like cdrom.



A rough theoretical solution is to patch kernel to disallow modifications to MBR plus another area of hard disk (maybe a partition) and store kernel and boot loader files in that area.







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    UEFI secure boot, if that's supported by your "regular PC".
    – Michael Homer
    Dec 2 at 8:03










  • UEFI secure boot only detects the changes on reboot, it does not prevent. I'm looking for another solution.
    – gopy
    Dec 2 at 8:59










  • No you really can not limit root on a running os. If an intruder had physical or root access they can do what they wish. You can, however, use non root users rather than the root account. The only potential protections, imo, from exploits are keeping your system up to date and selinux ( selinux is not fool proof). You can read any linux security book or further hardening guides.
    – Panther
    Dec 2 at 16:12










  • It certainly prevents the “modify the boot loader to load another kernel” case, in that it won’t load another kernel, and module signing prevents injection into the running kernel. I’m not sure what your model is here.
    – Michael Homer
    Dec 2 at 17:03












  • @Panther I understand that root can do anything, but I mean to add changes to kernel that prevent root from doing the above mentioned actions. You advised to read about hardening methods, but I am looking for a new hardening method. It is a new layer of protection.
    – gopy
    Dec 2 at 17:27














  • 1




    UEFI secure boot, if that's supported by your "regular PC".
    – Michael Homer
    Dec 2 at 8:03










  • UEFI secure boot only detects the changes on reboot, it does not prevent. I'm looking for another solution.
    – gopy
    Dec 2 at 8:59










  • No you really can not limit root on a running os. If an intruder had physical or root access they can do what they wish. You can, however, use non root users rather than the root account. The only potential protections, imo, from exploits are keeping your system up to date and selinux ( selinux is not fool proof). You can read any linux security book or further hardening guides.
    – Panther
    Dec 2 at 16:12










  • It certainly prevents the “modify the boot loader to load another kernel” case, in that it won’t load another kernel, and module signing prevents injection into the running kernel. I’m not sure what your model is here.
    – Michael Homer
    Dec 2 at 17:03












  • @Panther I understand that root can do anything, but I mean to add changes to kernel that prevent root from doing the above mentioned actions. You advised to read about hardening methods, but I am looking for a new hardening method. It is a new layer of protection.
    – gopy
    Dec 2 at 17:27








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UEFI secure boot, if that's supported by your "regular PC".
– Michael Homer
Dec 2 at 8:03




UEFI secure boot, if that's supported by your "regular PC".
– Michael Homer
Dec 2 at 8:03












UEFI secure boot only detects the changes on reboot, it does not prevent. I'm looking for another solution.
– gopy
Dec 2 at 8:59




UEFI secure boot only detects the changes on reboot, it does not prevent. I'm looking for another solution.
– gopy
Dec 2 at 8:59












No you really can not limit root on a running os. If an intruder had physical or root access they can do what they wish. You can, however, use non root users rather than the root account. The only potential protections, imo, from exploits are keeping your system up to date and selinux ( selinux is not fool proof). You can read any linux security book or further hardening guides.
– Panther
Dec 2 at 16:12




No you really can not limit root on a running os. If an intruder had physical or root access they can do what they wish. You can, however, use non root users rather than the root account. The only potential protections, imo, from exploits are keeping your system up to date and selinux ( selinux is not fool proof). You can read any linux security book or further hardening guides.
– Panther
Dec 2 at 16:12












It certainly prevents the “modify the boot loader to load another kernel” case, in that it won’t load another kernel, and module signing prevents injection into the running kernel. I’m not sure what your model is here.
– Michael Homer
Dec 2 at 17:03






It certainly prevents the “modify the boot loader to load another kernel” case, in that it won’t load another kernel, and module signing prevents injection into the running kernel. I’m not sure what your model is here.
– Michael Homer
Dec 2 at 17:03














@Panther I understand that root can do anything, but I mean to add changes to kernel that prevent root from doing the above mentioned actions. You advised to read about hardening methods, but I am looking for a new hardening method. It is a new layer of protection.
– gopy
Dec 2 at 17:27




@Panther I understand that root can do anything, but I mean to add changes to kernel that prevent root from doing the above mentioned actions. You advised to read about hardening methods, but I am looking for a new hardening method. It is a new layer of protection.
– gopy
Dec 2 at 17:27










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'UEFI secure boot' would stop a remote attacker from persisting a reboot but they could just re-hack on every reboot.
Local users could just use



mokutil -#-import my_signing_key_pub.der





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'UEFI secure boot' would stop a remote attacker from persisting a reboot but they could just re-hack on every reboot.
Local users could just use



mokutil -#-import my_signing_key_pub.der





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'UEFI secure boot' would stop a remote attacker from persisting a reboot but they could just re-hack on every reboot.
Local users could just use



mokutil -#-import my_signing_key_pub.der





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'UEFI secure boot' would stop a remote attacker from persisting a reboot but they could just re-hack on every reboot.
Local users could just use



mokutil -#-import my_signing_key_pub.der





share|improve this answer












'UEFI secure boot' would stop a remote attacker from persisting a reboot but they could just re-hack on every reboot.
Local users could just use



mokutil -#-import my_signing_key_pub.der






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