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can I say しごとがんばってね for saying have a nice day at work? do I need the particle と to make it "with work" しごととがんばってね










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    Perhaps it's not, strictly speaking, pertinent to your question, but do you use "with work" that way in English? As in "alongside with" or "together with"? I don't see the connection between "Have a good day with work" and the typical meaning of と when it means "with". The English sentence sounds a little odd to me generally, but I won't go so far as to say it couldn't be said, I guess.
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    Perhaps it's not, strictly speaking, pertinent to your question, but do you use "with work" that way in English? As in "alongside with" or "together with"? I don't see the connection between "Have a good day with work" and the typical meaning of と when it means "with". The English sentence sounds a little odd to me generally, but I won't go so far as to say it couldn't be said, I guess.
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can I say しごとがんばってね for saying have a nice day at work? do I need the particle と to make it "with work" しごととがんばってね







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    Perhaps it's not, strictly speaking, pertinent to your question, but do you use "with work" that way in English? As in "alongside with" or "together with"? I don't see the connection between "Have a good day with work" and the typical meaning of と when it means "with". The English sentence sounds a little odd to me generally, but I won't go so far as to say it couldn't be said, I guess.
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    Perhaps it's not, strictly speaking, pertinent to your question, but do you use "with work" that way in English? As in "alongside with" or "together with"? I don't see the connection between "Have a good day with work" and the typical meaning of と when it means "with". The English sentence sounds a little odd to me generally, but I won't go so far as to say it couldn't be said, I guess.
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Perhaps it's not, strictly speaking, pertinent to your question, but do you use "with work" that way in English? As in "alongside with" or "together with"? I don't see the connection between "Have a good day with work" and the typical meaning of と when it means "with". The English sentence sounds a little odd to me generally, but I won't go so far as to say it couldn't be said, I guess.
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Perhaps it's not, strictly speaking, pertinent to your question, but do you use "with work" that way in English? As in "alongside with" or "together with"? I don't see the connection between "Have a good day with work" and the typical meaning of と when it means "with". The English sentence sounds a little odd to me generally, but I won't go so far as to say it couldn't be said, I guess.
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Japanese がんばる is a transitive verb that means "to work hard on/with ~". That is to say, you have to say しごとがんばってね if you don't want to omit particles, but しごとがんばってね is fine in casual conversations, too. しごとがんばってね is ungrammatical.



In general, と meaning with cannot be easily omitted like が/は/を. Being able to omit と freely would obviously introduce a lot of confusion and ambiguity. For example, 彼【かれ】映画【えいが】見た【みた】 will always mean "He watched a movie" rather than "I watched a movie with him."






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    Japanese がんばる is a transitive verb that means "to work hard on/with ~". That is to say, you have to say しごとがんばってね if you don't want to omit particles, but しごとがんばってね is fine in casual conversations, too. しごとがんばってね is ungrammatical.



    In general, と meaning with cannot be easily omitted like が/は/を. Being able to omit と freely would obviously introduce a lot of confusion and ambiguity. For example, 彼【かれ】映画【えいが】見た【みた】 will always mean "He watched a movie" rather than "I watched a movie with him."






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      Japanese がんばる is a transitive verb that means "to work hard on/with ~". That is to say, you have to say しごとがんばってね if you don't want to omit particles, but しごとがんばってね is fine in casual conversations, too. しごとがんばってね is ungrammatical.



      In general, と meaning with cannot be easily omitted like が/は/を. Being able to omit と freely would obviously introduce a lot of confusion and ambiguity. For example, 彼【かれ】映画【えいが】見た【みた】 will always mean "He watched a movie" rather than "I watched a movie with him."






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        Japanese がんばる is a transitive verb that means "to work hard on/with ~". That is to say, you have to say しごとがんばってね if you don't want to omit particles, but しごとがんばってね is fine in casual conversations, too. しごとがんばってね is ungrammatical.



        In general, と meaning with cannot be easily omitted like が/は/を. Being able to omit と freely would obviously introduce a lot of confusion and ambiguity. For example, 彼【かれ】映画【えいが】見た【みた】 will always mean "He watched a movie" rather than "I watched a movie with him."






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        Japanese がんばる is a transitive verb that means "to work hard on/with ~". That is to say, you have to say しごとがんばってね if you don't want to omit particles, but しごとがんばってね is fine in casual conversations, too. しごとがんばってね is ungrammatical.



        In general, と meaning with cannot be easily omitted like が/は/を. Being able to omit と freely would obviously introduce a lot of confusion and ambiguity. For example, 彼【かれ】映画【えいが】見た【みた】 will always mean "He watched a movie" rather than "I watched a movie with him."







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