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Two people are playing a game, in which each player takes turns drawing closed loops on a sheet of paper. Each new loop must intersect each of the other loops exactly twice. When one player has no moves available, the other player wins.



Is it possible for any of the players to ever win? If yes, how? If not, prove that it is impossible.






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Two people are playing a game, in which each player takes turns drawing closed loops on a sheet of paper. Each new loop must intersect each of the other loops exactly twice. When one player has no moves available, the other player wins.



Is it possible for any of the players to ever win? If yes, how? If not, prove that it is impossible.






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Two people are playing a game, in which each player takes turns drawing closed loops on a sheet of paper. Each new loop must intersect each of the other loops exactly twice. When one player has no moves available, the other player wins.



Is it possible for any of the players to ever win? If yes, how? If not, prove that it is impossible.






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Two people are playing a game, in which each player takes turns drawing closed loops on a sheet of paper. Each new loop must intersect each of the other loops exactly twice. When one player has no moves available, the other player wins.



Is it possible for any of the players to ever win? If yes, how? If not, prove that it is impossible.






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  • Are the loops circles? Or any closed shape?
    – Dr Xorile
    1 hour ago










  • Any closed shape.
    – Stefan
    1 hour ago


















  • Are the loops circles? Or any closed shape?
    – Dr Xorile
    1 hour ago










  • Any closed shape.
    – Stefan
    1 hour ago
















Are the loops circles? Or any closed shape?
– Dr Xorile
1 hour ago




Are the loops circles? Or any closed shape?
– Dr Xorile
1 hour ago












Any closed shape.
– Stefan
1 hour ago




Any closed shape.
– Stefan
1 hour ago










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Each player can follow a strategy of drawing a loop that follows parallel and close to the last loop drawn. The last loop goes through each other loop twice, so if you follow it closely enough your line will do so also. Then just make it switch over twice as you're following it around.







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    Each player can follow a strategy of drawing a loop that follows parallel and close to the last loop drawn. The last loop goes through each other loop twice, so if you follow it closely enough your line will do so also. Then just make it switch over twice as you're following it around.







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      Each player can follow a strategy of drawing a loop that follows parallel and close to the last loop drawn. The last loop goes through each other loop twice, so if you follow it closely enough your line will do so also. Then just make it switch over twice as you're following it around.







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        Each player can follow a strategy of drawing a loop that follows parallel and close to the last loop drawn. The last loop goes through each other loop twice, so if you follow it closely enough your line will do so also. Then just make it switch over twice as you're following it around.







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        Each player can follow a strategy of drawing a loop that follows parallel and close to the last loop drawn. The last loop goes through each other loop twice, so if you follow it closely enough your line will do so also. Then just make it switch over twice as you're following it around.








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