University asked everyone to upload offer letter to a shared drive folder. Is this legal?












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My university has asked every student with an offer to post his/her offer letter in a google drive link.



Almost every company who hire here are US based. Specific US city wise: San Jose, Seattle, San Francisco. Mainly US west cost : Californian companies dominating followed by 3-4 Wall street banks like Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley etc.



Coming to the college itself, it's like an Indian government institution, they will not listen to "rules". They will threaten students on withholding their bachelor's degrees if they don't agree to uploading their offer.



Almost every offer letter in the shared folder has NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement). Now I have read a few resources on whether an offer letter is confidential or not and I am still on the fence about it's confidentiality. But there are some offers which clearly mention that the letter itself is confidential too.



My questions are:
- Is this legal under the terms of offer letter?




  • What are the consequences of uploading the letter here?


  • What happens if the companies find out about this?











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  • Okay, added country specific tag. But I must mention that most of the companies who hire here are US based. Specific US city wise: San Jose, Seattle, San Francisco. Mainly US west cost : Californian companies dominating followed by 3-4 wall street banks (Goldman Sachs, Morgan stanley etc).
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  • then you should edit that into the question. All important information should be there.
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  • Sure, just added. Thank you for the help. Any extra tags which might help?
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  • I'm curious to know what the purpose of this is from the university's point-of-view. Attracting new students, reputation versus other similar universities, meeting government set metrics on employment-after-degree, or ???
    – davidbak
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  • For your amusement: In an earlier, simpler, but nevertheless still very competitive era (a few decades ago) it was standard practice at Harvey Mudd College for graduating seniors to post all their letters on their dorm room door. All letters meant acceptances and rejections! A door full of rejections was especially entertaining and a showing of (quirky) status. (Don't know if this is still the practice there.)
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My university has asked every student with an offer to post his/her offer letter in a google drive link.



Almost every company who hire here are US based. Specific US city wise: San Jose, Seattle, San Francisco. Mainly US west cost : Californian companies dominating followed by 3-4 Wall street banks like Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley etc.



Coming to the college itself, it's like an Indian government institution, they will not listen to "rules". They will threaten students on withholding their bachelor's degrees if they don't agree to uploading their offer.



Almost every offer letter in the shared folder has NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement). Now I have read a few resources on whether an offer letter is confidential or not and I am still on the fence about it's confidentiality. But there are some offers which clearly mention that the letter itself is confidential too.



My questions are:
- Is this legal under the terms of offer letter?




  • What are the consequences of uploading the letter here?


  • What happens if the companies find out about this?











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  • Okay, added country specific tag. But I must mention that most of the companies who hire here are US based. Specific US city wise: San Jose, Seattle, San Francisco. Mainly US west cost : Californian companies dominating followed by 3-4 wall street banks (Goldman Sachs, Morgan stanley etc).
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  • then you should edit that into the question. All important information should be there.
    – SaggingRufus
    2 hours ago










  • Sure, just added. Thank you for the help. Any extra tags which might help?
    – Vincent Adams
    2 hours ago










  • I'm curious to know what the purpose of this is from the university's point-of-view. Attracting new students, reputation versus other similar universities, meeting government set metrics on employment-after-degree, or ???
    – davidbak
    30 mins ago












  • For your amusement: In an earlier, simpler, but nevertheless still very competitive era (a few decades ago) it was standard practice at Harvey Mudd College for graduating seniors to post all their letters on their dorm room door. All letters meant acceptances and rejections! A door full of rejections was especially entertaining and a showing of (quirky) status. (Don't know if this is still the practice there.)
    – davidbak
    26 mins ago














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My university has asked every student with an offer to post his/her offer letter in a google drive link.



Almost every company who hire here are US based. Specific US city wise: San Jose, Seattle, San Francisco. Mainly US west cost : Californian companies dominating followed by 3-4 Wall street banks like Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley etc.



Coming to the college itself, it's like an Indian government institution, they will not listen to "rules". They will threaten students on withholding their bachelor's degrees if they don't agree to uploading their offer.



Almost every offer letter in the shared folder has NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement). Now I have read a few resources on whether an offer letter is confidential or not and I am still on the fence about it's confidentiality. But there are some offers which clearly mention that the letter itself is confidential too.



My questions are:
- Is this legal under the terms of offer letter?




  • What are the consequences of uploading the letter here?


  • What happens if the companies find out about this?











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My university has asked every student with an offer to post his/her offer letter in a google drive link.



Almost every company who hire here are US based. Specific US city wise: San Jose, Seattle, San Francisco. Mainly US west cost : Californian companies dominating followed by 3-4 Wall street banks like Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley etc.



Coming to the college itself, it's like an Indian government institution, they will not listen to "rules". They will threaten students on withholding their bachelor's degrees if they don't agree to uploading their offer.



Almost every offer letter in the shared folder has NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement). Now I have read a few resources on whether an offer letter is confidential or not and I am still on the fence about it's confidentiality. But there are some offers which clearly mention that the letter itself is confidential too.



My questions are:
- Is this legal under the terms of offer letter?




  • What are the consequences of uploading the letter here?


  • What happens if the companies find out about this?








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  • Okay, added country specific tag. But I must mention that most of the companies who hire here are US based. Specific US city wise: San Jose, Seattle, San Francisco. Mainly US west cost : Californian companies dominating followed by 3-4 wall street banks (Goldman Sachs, Morgan stanley etc).
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  • then you should edit that into the question. All important information should be there.
    – SaggingRufus
    2 hours ago










  • Sure, just added. Thank you for the help. Any extra tags which might help?
    – Vincent Adams
    2 hours ago










  • I'm curious to know what the purpose of this is from the university's point-of-view. Attracting new students, reputation versus other similar universities, meeting government set metrics on employment-after-degree, or ???
    – davidbak
    30 mins ago












  • For your amusement: In an earlier, simpler, but nevertheless still very competitive era (a few decades ago) it was standard practice at Harvey Mudd College for graduating seniors to post all their letters on their dorm room door. All letters meant acceptances and rejections! A door full of rejections was especially entertaining and a showing of (quirky) status. (Don't know if this is still the practice there.)
    – davidbak
    26 mins ago


















  • Okay, added country specific tag. But I must mention that most of the companies who hire here are US based. Specific US city wise: San Jose, Seattle, San Francisco. Mainly US west cost : Californian companies dominating followed by 3-4 wall street banks (Goldman Sachs, Morgan stanley etc).
    – Vincent Adams
    3 hours ago










  • then you should edit that into the question. All important information should be there.
    – SaggingRufus
    2 hours ago










  • Sure, just added. Thank you for the help. Any extra tags which might help?
    – Vincent Adams
    2 hours ago










  • I'm curious to know what the purpose of this is from the university's point-of-view. Attracting new students, reputation versus other similar universities, meeting government set metrics on employment-after-degree, or ???
    – davidbak
    30 mins ago












  • For your amusement: In an earlier, simpler, but nevertheless still very competitive era (a few decades ago) it was standard practice at Harvey Mudd College for graduating seniors to post all their letters on their dorm room door. All letters meant acceptances and rejections! A door full of rejections was especially entertaining and a showing of (quirky) status. (Don't know if this is still the practice there.)
    – davidbak
    26 mins ago
















Okay, added country specific tag. But I must mention that most of the companies who hire here are US based. Specific US city wise: San Jose, Seattle, San Francisco. Mainly US west cost : Californian companies dominating followed by 3-4 wall street banks (Goldman Sachs, Morgan stanley etc).
– Vincent Adams
3 hours ago




Okay, added country specific tag. But I must mention that most of the companies who hire here are US based. Specific US city wise: San Jose, Seattle, San Francisco. Mainly US west cost : Californian companies dominating followed by 3-4 wall street banks (Goldman Sachs, Morgan stanley etc).
– Vincent Adams
3 hours ago












then you should edit that into the question. All important information should be there.
– SaggingRufus
2 hours ago




then you should edit that into the question. All important information should be there.
– SaggingRufus
2 hours ago












Sure, just added. Thank you for the help. Any extra tags which might help?
– Vincent Adams
2 hours ago




Sure, just added. Thank you for the help. Any extra tags which might help?
– Vincent Adams
2 hours ago












I'm curious to know what the purpose of this is from the university's point-of-view. Attracting new students, reputation versus other similar universities, meeting government set metrics on employment-after-degree, or ???
– davidbak
30 mins ago






I'm curious to know what the purpose of this is from the university's point-of-view. Attracting new students, reputation versus other similar universities, meeting government set metrics on employment-after-degree, or ???
– davidbak
30 mins ago














For your amusement: In an earlier, simpler, but nevertheless still very competitive era (a few decades ago) it was standard practice at Harvey Mudd College for graduating seniors to post all their letters on their dorm room door. All letters meant acceptances and rejections! A door full of rejections was especially entertaining and a showing of (quirky) status. (Don't know if this is still the practice there.)
– davidbak
26 mins ago




For your amusement: In an earlier, simpler, but nevertheless still very competitive era (a few decades ago) it was standard practice at Harvey Mudd College for graduating seniors to post all their letters on their dorm room door. All letters meant acceptances and rejections! A door full of rejections was especially entertaining and a showing of (quirky) status. (Don't know if this is still the practice there.)
– davidbak
26 mins ago










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Is this legal under the terms of offer letter?




Typically not. Most US companies will require you to sign an NDA as part of the interview process and the offer letter is typically covered by this NDA. This is not a crime, but it's clearly a violation of contract. Read the paperwork that you have signed carefully and if you can't figure it out, have it reviewed by a lawyer.




What are the consequences of uploading the letter here?




Depending on what exact paperwork you have signed, it's a violation of a contract or NDA.




What happens if the companies find out about this?




Depends on circumstances and the company, but most US companies will NOT take this lightly. A violation of an NDA is a severe infraction and always a good reason for "termination with cause". Offer letters are considered confidential, and most companies are very protective of salary and offer data. Most likely outcome is, that they will rescind the offer, put you on a do not hire list and may share the infraction of other tech companies which would make it hard for you to get a job in the future. It is less likely that would go after you for damages, although they technically could.



The question you didn't ask




"What should I do?"




This is a bizarre request. The college is asking you do something that is likely in violation of a contract that you have signed and that may have serious negative consequences for their students. It may very well get the college blacklisted by US employers.



Step #1 would be to try to talk to someone and make them understand that this is potentially very harmful to the students and the college as well. If they stick to their request and threaten to withhold your degree, you need to get a lawyer involved. This is serious.



DO NOT post your offer letter, unless you have explicit permission in writing from your employer to do so (which you are unlikely to get). You can also ask your recruiter for help and advice. Maybe a letter from your employer stating that posting of the offer letter violates your agreement and would result in you losing the offer, would help communicating with the college






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Whenever you ask a question about whether or not an action is legal, ask an attorney. No opinion here (unless it happens to come from an attorney) has any legal weight. As my retired-attorney father used to say, people can sue for anything, at any time, for any reason. Violating NDA (which in this case means you're revealing competitive information about hiring procedures) is a big deal and can seriously cost you — not the university.



One solution is provided by 520: ask your employer for a version of the letter to give to the university, or for their permission to upload the letter you received.



Another solution is to inform the university that you are under NDA and cannot upload the letter without violating it.



If the university is so childish that it would withhold your degree simply because you're unwilling to violate a legal agreement with your new employer, then perhaps you should consider suing. Granted, I don't know a thing about Indian law — but my knee-jerk reaction is the argument of loss-of-income-due-to-hiring-interference would cost them a boatload of cash. Here in the U.S., you'd have lawyers lining up to take the case.






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  • Okay, understood. Thank you for the answer. About asking the company, should I just directly state the matter and or any particular formal way of going around it? For now, my company's HR is the source of contact, I haven't yet started work, my onboarding is due in January.
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    As common as this sounds in India, I wouldn't be surprised if the company hasn't run into the problem before. I would not expect formality to be an issue. Call the HR department, explain that your university is asking for the offer letter to be uploaded, and ask if they have a procedure for that process. If they don't, ask them if they could provide a simple confirmation-of-employment letter (very much akin to what @520 has suggested). They'll be nice about all this. Yours isn't the first university to do silly things.
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  • Okay, will contact HR and take necessary steps. Thank you.
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  • Even if advice here comes from a lawyer, it doesn't come from your lawyer. law.stackexchange.com is good for general principles, but if you need legal advice you need to find a lawyer. In the US, your local Bar Association is likely to set up low-price consultations.
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You could ask your prospective employer for a letter that you can share with the university, or if you're really out of options, you can make one up. Given that these letters are under NDA anyway, it's highly unlikely they will be publicising them. All a fake letter would have to contain is your name, the name of the employer and the name of the person who sent you the message, and some general fluff about being accepted. None of that will be NDA material. Don't put in any information about start times, or office locations. If they won't listen to laws, feel free to bypass theirs when their rules contravene laws.






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  • Would blurring out certain parts of the letter be fine legal wise? Or should I just create a new document with relevant details?
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  • From a legal perspective, blurring out the relevant parts could work but you'd need to know what all the relevant parts are. It sounds like your institution MAY have a hissy fit if they don't think they have the unredacted document though (ask them about this). If they want unredacted, make a new document and make it look like the original style-wise.
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  • Got it. It's better to make a separate document. Since the deadline is a week away, I'd rather wait a bit more.
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Is this legal under the terms of offer letter?




Typically not. Most US companies will require you to sign an NDA as part of the interview process and the offer letter is typically covered by this NDA. This is not a crime, but it's clearly a violation of contract. Read the paperwork that you have signed carefully and if you can't figure it out, have it reviewed by a lawyer.




What are the consequences of uploading the letter here?




Depending on what exact paperwork you have signed, it's a violation of a contract or NDA.




What happens if the companies find out about this?




Depends on circumstances and the company, but most US companies will NOT take this lightly. A violation of an NDA is a severe infraction and always a good reason for "termination with cause". Offer letters are considered confidential, and most companies are very protective of salary and offer data. Most likely outcome is, that they will rescind the offer, put you on a do not hire list and may share the infraction of other tech companies which would make it hard for you to get a job in the future. It is less likely that would go after you for damages, although they technically could.



The question you didn't ask




"What should I do?"




This is a bizarre request. The college is asking you do something that is likely in violation of a contract that you have signed and that may have serious negative consequences for their students. It may very well get the college blacklisted by US employers.



Step #1 would be to try to talk to someone and make them understand that this is potentially very harmful to the students and the college as well. If they stick to their request and threaten to withhold your degree, you need to get a lawyer involved. This is serious.



DO NOT post your offer letter, unless you have explicit permission in writing from your employer to do so (which you are unlikely to get). You can also ask your recruiter for help and advice. Maybe a letter from your employer stating that posting of the offer letter violates your agreement and would result in you losing the offer, would help communicating with the college






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    1 hour ago
















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Is this legal under the terms of offer letter?




Typically not. Most US companies will require you to sign an NDA as part of the interview process and the offer letter is typically covered by this NDA. This is not a crime, but it's clearly a violation of contract. Read the paperwork that you have signed carefully and if you can't figure it out, have it reviewed by a lawyer.




What are the consequences of uploading the letter here?




Depending on what exact paperwork you have signed, it's a violation of a contract or NDA.




What happens if the companies find out about this?




Depends on circumstances and the company, but most US companies will NOT take this lightly. A violation of an NDA is a severe infraction and always a good reason for "termination with cause". Offer letters are considered confidential, and most companies are very protective of salary and offer data. Most likely outcome is, that they will rescind the offer, put you on a do not hire list and may share the infraction of other tech companies which would make it hard for you to get a job in the future. It is less likely that would go after you for damages, although they technically could.



The question you didn't ask




"What should I do?"




This is a bizarre request. The college is asking you do something that is likely in violation of a contract that you have signed and that may have serious negative consequences for their students. It may very well get the college blacklisted by US employers.



Step #1 would be to try to talk to someone and make them understand that this is potentially very harmful to the students and the college as well. If they stick to their request and threaten to withhold your degree, you need to get a lawyer involved. This is serious.



DO NOT post your offer letter, unless you have explicit permission in writing from your employer to do so (which you are unlikely to get). You can also ask your recruiter for help and advice. Maybe a letter from your employer stating that posting of the offer letter violates your agreement and would result in you losing the offer, would help communicating with the college






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  • Thank you for answering. As commented before, I will be taking up this matter with my company's HR. I'll also advice my friends to do the same with their companies.
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Is this legal under the terms of offer letter?




Typically not. Most US companies will require you to sign an NDA as part of the interview process and the offer letter is typically covered by this NDA. This is not a crime, but it's clearly a violation of contract. Read the paperwork that you have signed carefully and if you can't figure it out, have it reviewed by a lawyer.




What are the consequences of uploading the letter here?




Depending on what exact paperwork you have signed, it's a violation of a contract or NDA.




What happens if the companies find out about this?




Depends on circumstances and the company, but most US companies will NOT take this lightly. A violation of an NDA is a severe infraction and always a good reason for "termination with cause". Offer letters are considered confidential, and most companies are very protective of salary and offer data. Most likely outcome is, that they will rescind the offer, put you on a do not hire list and may share the infraction of other tech companies which would make it hard for you to get a job in the future. It is less likely that would go after you for damages, although they technically could.



The question you didn't ask




"What should I do?"




This is a bizarre request. The college is asking you do something that is likely in violation of a contract that you have signed and that may have serious negative consequences for their students. It may very well get the college blacklisted by US employers.



Step #1 would be to try to talk to someone and make them understand that this is potentially very harmful to the students and the college as well. If they stick to their request and threaten to withhold your degree, you need to get a lawyer involved. This is serious.



DO NOT post your offer letter, unless you have explicit permission in writing from your employer to do so (which you are unlikely to get). You can also ask your recruiter for help and advice. Maybe a letter from your employer stating that posting of the offer letter violates your agreement and would result in you losing the offer, would help communicating with the college






share|improve this answer













Is this legal under the terms of offer letter?




Typically not. Most US companies will require you to sign an NDA as part of the interview process and the offer letter is typically covered by this NDA. This is not a crime, but it's clearly a violation of contract. Read the paperwork that you have signed carefully and if you can't figure it out, have it reviewed by a lawyer.




What are the consequences of uploading the letter here?




Depending on what exact paperwork you have signed, it's a violation of a contract or NDA.




What happens if the companies find out about this?




Depends on circumstances and the company, but most US companies will NOT take this lightly. A violation of an NDA is a severe infraction and always a good reason for "termination with cause". Offer letters are considered confidential, and most companies are very protective of salary and offer data. Most likely outcome is, that they will rescind the offer, put you on a do not hire list and may share the infraction of other tech companies which would make it hard for you to get a job in the future. It is less likely that would go after you for damages, although they technically could.



The question you didn't ask




"What should I do?"




This is a bizarre request. The college is asking you do something that is likely in violation of a contract that you have signed and that may have serious negative consequences for their students. It may very well get the college blacklisted by US employers.



Step #1 would be to try to talk to someone and make them understand that this is potentially very harmful to the students and the college as well. If they stick to their request and threaten to withhold your degree, you need to get a lawyer involved. This is serious.



DO NOT post your offer letter, unless you have explicit permission in writing from your employer to do so (which you are unlikely to get). You can also ask your recruiter for help and advice. Maybe a letter from your employer stating that posting of the offer letter violates your agreement and would result in you losing the offer, would help communicating with the college







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  • Thank you for answering. As commented before, I will be taking up this matter with my company's HR. I'll also advice my friends to do the same with their companies.
    – Vincent Adams
    1 hour ago


















  • Thank you for answering. As commented before, I will be taking up this matter with my company's HR. I'll also advice my friends to do the same with their companies.
    – Vincent Adams
    1 hour ago
















Thank you for answering. As commented before, I will be taking up this matter with my company's HR. I'll also advice my friends to do the same with their companies.
– Vincent Adams
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Thank you for answering. As commented before, I will be taking up this matter with my company's HR. I'll also advice my friends to do the same with their companies.
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Whenever you ask a question about whether or not an action is legal, ask an attorney. No opinion here (unless it happens to come from an attorney) has any legal weight. As my retired-attorney father used to say, people can sue for anything, at any time, for any reason. Violating NDA (which in this case means you're revealing competitive information about hiring procedures) is a big deal and can seriously cost you — not the university.



One solution is provided by 520: ask your employer for a version of the letter to give to the university, or for their permission to upload the letter you received.



Another solution is to inform the university that you are under NDA and cannot upload the letter without violating it.



If the university is so childish that it would withhold your degree simply because you're unwilling to violate a legal agreement with your new employer, then perhaps you should consider suing. Granted, I don't know a thing about Indian law — but my knee-jerk reaction is the argument of loss-of-income-due-to-hiring-interference would cost them a boatload of cash. Here in the U.S., you'd have lawyers lining up to take the case.






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  • Okay, understood. Thank you for the answer. About asking the company, should I just directly state the matter and or any particular formal way of going around it? For now, my company's HR is the source of contact, I haven't yet started work, my onboarding is due in January.
    – Vincent Adams
    2 hours ago






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    As common as this sounds in India, I wouldn't be surprised if the company hasn't run into the problem before. I would not expect formality to be an issue. Call the HR department, explain that your university is asking for the offer letter to be uploaded, and ask if they have a procedure for that process. If they don't, ask them if they could provide a simple confirmation-of-employment letter (very much akin to what @520 has suggested). They'll be nice about all this. Yours isn't the first university to do silly things.
    – JBH
    1 hour ago










  • Okay, will contact HR and take necessary steps. Thank you.
    – Vincent Adams
    1 hour ago










  • Even if advice here comes from a lawyer, it doesn't come from your lawyer. law.stackexchange.com is good for general principles, but if you need legal advice you need to find a lawyer. In the US, your local Bar Association is likely to set up low-price consultations.
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Whenever you ask a question about whether or not an action is legal, ask an attorney. No opinion here (unless it happens to come from an attorney) has any legal weight. As my retired-attorney father used to say, people can sue for anything, at any time, for any reason. Violating NDA (which in this case means you're revealing competitive information about hiring procedures) is a big deal and can seriously cost you — not the university.



One solution is provided by 520: ask your employer for a version of the letter to give to the university, or for their permission to upload the letter you received.



Another solution is to inform the university that you are under NDA and cannot upload the letter without violating it.



If the university is so childish that it would withhold your degree simply because you're unwilling to violate a legal agreement with your new employer, then perhaps you should consider suing. Granted, I don't know a thing about Indian law — but my knee-jerk reaction is the argument of loss-of-income-due-to-hiring-interference would cost them a boatload of cash. Here in the U.S., you'd have lawyers lining up to take the case.






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  • Okay, understood. Thank you for the answer. About asking the company, should I just directly state the matter and or any particular formal way of going around it? For now, my company's HR is the source of contact, I haven't yet started work, my onboarding is due in January.
    – Vincent Adams
    2 hours ago






  • 2




    As common as this sounds in India, I wouldn't be surprised if the company hasn't run into the problem before. I would not expect formality to be an issue. Call the HR department, explain that your university is asking for the offer letter to be uploaded, and ask if they have a procedure for that process. If they don't, ask them if they could provide a simple confirmation-of-employment letter (very much akin to what @520 has suggested). They'll be nice about all this. Yours isn't the first university to do silly things.
    – JBH
    1 hour ago










  • Okay, will contact HR and take necessary steps. Thank you.
    – Vincent Adams
    1 hour ago










  • Even if advice here comes from a lawyer, it doesn't come from your lawyer. law.stackexchange.com is good for general principles, but if you need legal advice you need to find a lawyer. In the US, your local Bar Association is likely to set up low-price consultations.
    – David Thornley
    1 hour ago














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Whenever you ask a question about whether or not an action is legal, ask an attorney. No opinion here (unless it happens to come from an attorney) has any legal weight. As my retired-attorney father used to say, people can sue for anything, at any time, for any reason. Violating NDA (which in this case means you're revealing competitive information about hiring procedures) is a big deal and can seriously cost you — not the university.



One solution is provided by 520: ask your employer for a version of the letter to give to the university, or for their permission to upload the letter you received.



Another solution is to inform the university that you are under NDA and cannot upload the letter without violating it.



If the university is so childish that it would withhold your degree simply because you're unwilling to violate a legal agreement with your new employer, then perhaps you should consider suing. Granted, I don't know a thing about Indian law — but my knee-jerk reaction is the argument of loss-of-income-due-to-hiring-interference would cost them a boatload of cash. Here in the U.S., you'd have lawyers lining up to take the case.






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Whenever you ask a question about whether or not an action is legal, ask an attorney. No opinion here (unless it happens to come from an attorney) has any legal weight. As my retired-attorney father used to say, people can sue for anything, at any time, for any reason. Violating NDA (which in this case means you're revealing competitive information about hiring procedures) is a big deal and can seriously cost you — not the university.



One solution is provided by 520: ask your employer for a version of the letter to give to the university, or for their permission to upload the letter you received.



Another solution is to inform the university that you are under NDA and cannot upload the letter without violating it.



If the university is so childish that it would withhold your degree simply because you're unwilling to violate a legal agreement with your new employer, then perhaps you should consider suing. Granted, I don't know a thing about Indian law — but my knee-jerk reaction is the argument of loss-of-income-due-to-hiring-interference would cost them a boatload of cash. Here in the U.S., you'd have lawyers lining up to take the case.







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  • Okay, understood. Thank you for the answer. About asking the company, should I just directly state the matter and or any particular formal way of going around it? For now, my company's HR is the source of contact, I haven't yet started work, my onboarding is due in January.
    – Vincent Adams
    2 hours ago






  • 2




    As common as this sounds in India, I wouldn't be surprised if the company hasn't run into the problem before. I would not expect formality to be an issue. Call the HR department, explain that your university is asking for the offer letter to be uploaded, and ask if they have a procedure for that process. If they don't, ask them if they could provide a simple confirmation-of-employment letter (very much akin to what @520 has suggested). They'll be nice about all this. Yours isn't the first university to do silly things.
    – JBH
    1 hour ago










  • Okay, will contact HR and take necessary steps. Thank you.
    – Vincent Adams
    1 hour ago










  • Even if advice here comes from a lawyer, it doesn't come from your lawyer. law.stackexchange.com is good for general principles, but if you need legal advice you need to find a lawyer. In the US, your local Bar Association is likely to set up low-price consultations.
    – David Thornley
    1 hour ago


















  • Okay, understood. Thank you for the answer. About asking the company, should I just directly state the matter and or any particular formal way of going around it? For now, my company's HR is the source of contact, I haven't yet started work, my onboarding is due in January.
    – Vincent Adams
    2 hours ago






  • 2




    As common as this sounds in India, I wouldn't be surprised if the company hasn't run into the problem before. I would not expect formality to be an issue. Call the HR department, explain that your university is asking for the offer letter to be uploaded, and ask if they have a procedure for that process. If they don't, ask them if they could provide a simple confirmation-of-employment letter (very much akin to what @520 has suggested). They'll be nice about all this. Yours isn't the first university to do silly things.
    – JBH
    1 hour ago










  • Okay, will contact HR and take necessary steps. Thank you.
    – Vincent Adams
    1 hour ago










  • Even if advice here comes from a lawyer, it doesn't come from your lawyer. law.stackexchange.com is good for general principles, but if you need legal advice you need to find a lawyer. In the US, your local Bar Association is likely to set up low-price consultations.
    – David Thornley
    1 hour ago
















Okay, understood. Thank you for the answer. About asking the company, should I just directly state the matter and or any particular formal way of going around it? For now, my company's HR is the source of contact, I haven't yet started work, my onboarding is due in January.
– Vincent Adams
2 hours ago




Okay, understood. Thank you for the answer. About asking the company, should I just directly state the matter and or any particular formal way of going around it? For now, my company's HR is the source of contact, I haven't yet started work, my onboarding is due in January.
– Vincent Adams
2 hours ago




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2




As common as this sounds in India, I wouldn't be surprised if the company hasn't run into the problem before. I would not expect formality to be an issue. Call the HR department, explain that your university is asking for the offer letter to be uploaded, and ask if they have a procedure for that process. If they don't, ask them if they could provide a simple confirmation-of-employment letter (very much akin to what @520 has suggested). They'll be nice about all this. Yours isn't the first university to do silly things.
– JBH
1 hour ago




As common as this sounds in India, I wouldn't be surprised if the company hasn't run into the problem before. I would not expect formality to be an issue. Call the HR department, explain that your university is asking for the offer letter to be uploaded, and ask if they have a procedure for that process. If they don't, ask them if they could provide a simple confirmation-of-employment letter (very much akin to what @520 has suggested). They'll be nice about all this. Yours isn't the first university to do silly things.
– JBH
1 hour ago












Okay, will contact HR and take necessary steps. Thank you.
– Vincent Adams
1 hour ago




Okay, will contact HR and take necessary steps. Thank you.
– Vincent Adams
1 hour ago












Even if advice here comes from a lawyer, it doesn't come from your lawyer. law.stackexchange.com is good for general principles, but if you need legal advice you need to find a lawyer. In the US, your local Bar Association is likely to set up low-price consultations.
– David Thornley
1 hour ago




Even if advice here comes from a lawyer, it doesn't come from your lawyer. law.stackexchange.com is good for general principles, but if you need legal advice you need to find a lawyer. In the US, your local Bar Association is likely to set up low-price consultations.
– David Thornley
1 hour ago











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You could ask your prospective employer for a letter that you can share with the university, or if you're really out of options, you can make one up. Given that these letters are under NDA anyway, it's highly unlikely they will be publicising them. All a fake letter would have to contain is your name, the name of the employer and the name of the person who sent you the message, and some general fluff about being accepted. None of that will be NDA material. Don't put in any information about start times, or office locations. If they won't listen to laws, feel free to bypass theirs when their rules contravene laws.






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  • Would blurring out certain parts of the letter be fine legal wise? Or should I just create a new document with relevant details?
    – Vincent Adams
    2 hours ago










  • From a legal perspective, blurring out the relevant parts could work but you'd need to know what all the relevant parts are. It sounds like your institution MAY have a hissy fit if they don't think they have the unredacted document though (ask them about this). If they want unredacted, make a new document and make it look like the original style-wise.
    – 520
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  • Got it. It's better to make a separate document. Since the deadline is a week away, I'd rather wait a bit more.
    – Vincent Adams
    2 hours ago
















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You could ask your prospective employer for a letter that you can share with the university, or if you're really out of options, you can make one up. Given that these letters are under NDA anyway, it's highly unlikely they will be publicising them. All a fake letter would have to contain is your name, the name of the employer and the name of the person who sent you the message, and some general fluff about being accepted. None of that will be NDA material. Don't put in any information about start times, or office locations. If they won't listen to laws, feel free to bypass theirs when their rules contravene laws.






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  • Would blurring out certain parts of the letter be fine legal wise? Or should I just create a new document with relevant details?
    – Vincent Adams
    2 hours ago










  • From a legal perspective, blurring out the relevant parts could work but you'd need to know what all the relevant parts are. It sounds like your institution MAY have a hissy fit if they don't think they have the unredacted document though (ask them about this). If they want unredacted, make a new document and make it look like the original style-wise.
    – 520
    2 hours ago












  • Got it. It's better to make a separate document. Since the deadline is a week away, I'd rather wait a bit more.
    – Vincent Adams
    2 hours ago














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You could ask your prospective employer for a letter that you can share with the university, or if you're really out of options, you can make one up. Given that these letters are under NDA anyway, it's highly unlikely they will be publicising them. All a fake letter would have to contain is your name, the name of the employer and the name of the person who sent you the message, and some general fluff about being accepted. None of that will be NDA material. Don't put in any information about start times, or office locations. If they won't listen to laws, feel free to bypass theirs when their rules contravene laws.






share|improve this answer












You could ask your prospective employer for a letter that you can share with the university, or if you're really out of options, you can make one up. Given that these letters are under NDA anyway, it's highly unlikely they will be publicising them. All a fake letter would have to contain is your name, the name of the employer and the name of the person who sent you the message, and some general fluff about being accepted. None of that will be NDA material. Don't put in any information about start times, or office locations. If they won't listen to laws, feel free to bypass theirs when their rules contravene laws.







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  • Would blurring out certain parts of the letter be fine legal wise? Or should I just create a new document with relevant details?
    – Vincent Adams
    2 hours ago










  • From a legal perspective, blurring out the relevant parts could work but you'd need to know what all the relevant parts are. It sounds like your institution MAY have a hissy fit if they don't think they have the unredacted document though (ask them about this). If they want unredacted, make a new document and make it look like the original style-wise.
    – 520
    2 hours ago












  • Got it. It's better to make a separate document. Since the deadline is a week away, I'd rather wait a bit more.
    – Vincent Adams
    2 hours ago


















  • Would blurring out certain parts of the letter be fine legal wise? Or should I just create a new document with relevant details?
    – Vincent Adams
    2 hours ago










  • From a legal perspective, blurring out the relevant parts could work but you'd need to know what all the relevant parts are. It sounds like your institution MAY have a hissy fit if they don't think they have the unredacted document though (ask them about this). If they want unredacted, make a new document and make it look like the original style-wise.
    – 520
    2 hours ago












  • Got it. It's better to make a separate document. Since the deadline is a week away, I'd rather wait a bit more.
    – Vincent Adams
    2 hours ago
















Would blurring out certain parts of the letter be fine legal wise? Or should I just create a new document with relevant details?
– Vincent Adams
2 hours ago




Would blurring out certain parts of the letter be fine legal wise? Or should I just create a new document with relevant details?
– Vincent Adams
2 hours ago












From a legal perspective, blurring out the relevant parts could work but you'd need to know what all the relevant parts are. It sounds like your institution MAY have a hissy fit if they don't think they have the unredacted document though (ask them about this). If they want unredacted, make a new document and make it look like the original style-wise.
– 520
2 hours ago






From a legal perspective, blurring out the relevant parts could work but you'd need to know what all the relevant parts are. It sounds like your institution MAY have a hissy fit if they don't think they have the unredacted document though (ask them about this). If they want unredacted, make a new document and make it look like the original style-wise.
– 520
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Got it. It's better to make a separate document. Since the deadline is a week away, I'd rather wait a bit more.
– Vincent Adams
2 hours ago




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