Why are files in my home dir being created as world-writable despite a more-restrictive umask?












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I've realized that the permissions for new files and directories behave a bit strangely. First of all, umask seems to return the right answer:



$ umask
0002


This means full access for my user and my group, no write access for the rest of the world, no suid. But if I create a file in my $HOME, this is how it looks:



$ ls -l testfile 
-rw-rw-rw- 1 robe robe 0 mar 16 12:58 testfile


i.e. , giving write access to everyone. The same happens with directories:



$ ls -ld testdir
drwxrwxrwx 2 robe robe 6 mar 16 13:00 testdir


I think this is the same as having umask 0000, not 0002. I've searched all /etc for some instance of umask that changes the default 0002 or 0022, but found none. This is a default CentOS 5.5 install. Any hint of why is this happening?










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    What filesystem type is your home directory on?

    – mattdm
    Mar 16 '11 at 12:33






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    And how are you creating testfile and testdir?

    – mattdm
    Mar 16 '11 at 12:34






  • 3





    @mattdm, you were right to insist: it's XFS. I forgot we have separate volumes for /home, /var and several more. Though I use XFS often and hadn't seen this behaviour. How can it be related?

    – rsuarez
    Mar 16 '11 at 14:13






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    acl can override umask locally. Is it possible your directories are being mounted with acl?

    – Faheem Mitha
    Mar 17 '11 at 21:33






  • 3





    Hmm, apparently xfs always has acl enabled. so it might not show in your /etc/fstab. Try running getfacl on your partitions/directories.

    – Faheem Mitha
    Mar 17 '11 at 21:40
















10















I've realized that the permissions for new files and directories behave a bit strangely. First of all, umask seems to return the right answer:



$ umask
0002


This means full access for my user and my group, no write access for the rest of the world, no suid. But if I create a file in my $HOME, this is how it looks:



$ ls -l testfile 
-rw-rw-rw- 1 robe robe 0 mar 16 12:58 testfile


i.e. , giving write access to everyone. The same happens with directories:



$ ls -ld testdir
drwxrwxrwx 2 robe robe 6 mar 16 13:00 testdir


I think this is the same as having umask 0000, not 0002. I've searched all /etc for some instance of umask that changes the default 0002 or 0022, but found none. This is a default CentOS 5.5 install. Any hint of why is this happening?










share|improve this question




















  • 3





    What filesystem type is your home directory on?

    – mattdm
    Mar 16 '11 at 12:33






  • 4





    And how are you creating testfile and testdir?

    – mattdm
    Mar 16 '11 at 12:34






  • 3





    @mattdm, you were right to insist: it's XFS. I forgot we have separate volumes for /home, /var and several more. Though I use XFS often and hadn't seen this behaviour. How can it be related?

    – rsuarez
    Mar 16 '11 at 14:13






  • 2





    acl can override umask locally. Is it possible your directories are being mounted with acl?

    – Faheem Mitha
    Mar 17 '11 at 21:33






  • 3





    Hmm, apparently xfs always has acl enabled. so it might not show in your /etc/fstab. Try running getfacl on your partitions/directories.

    – Faheem Mitha
    Mar 17 '11 at 21:40














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I've realized that the permissions for new files and directories behave a bit strangely. First of all, umask seems to return the right answer:



$ umask
0002


This means full access for my user and my group, no write access for the rest of the world, no suid. But if I create a file in my $HOME, this is how it looks:



$ ls -l testfile 
-rw-rw-rw- 1 robe robe 0 mar 16 12:58 testfile


i.e. , giving write access to everyone. The same happens with directories:



$ ls -ld testdir
drwxrwxrwx 2 robe robe 6 mar 16 13:00 testdir


I think this is the same as having umask 0000, not 0002. I've searched all /etc for some instance of umask that changes the default 0002 or 0022, but found none. This is a default CentOS 5.5 install. Any hint of why is this happening?










share|improve this question
















I've realized that the permissions for new files and directories behave a bit strangely. First of all, umask seems to return the right answer:



$ umask
0002


This means full access for my user and my group, no write access for the rest of the world, no suid. But if I create a file in my $HOME, this is how it looks:



$ ls -l testfile 
-rw-rw-rw- 1 robe robe 0 mar 16 12:58 testfile


i.e. , giving write access to everyone. The same happens with directories:



$ ls -ld testdir
drwxrwxrwx 2 robe robe 6 mar 16 13:00 testdir


I think this is the same as having umask 0000, not 0002. I've searched all /etc for some instance of umask that changes the default 0002 or 0022, but found none. This is a default CentOS 5.5 install. Any hint of why is this happening?







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  • 3





    What filesystem type is your home directory on?

    – mattdm
    Mar 16 '11 at 12:33






  • 4





    And how are you creating testfile and testdir?

    – mattdm
    Mar 16 '11 at 12:34






  • 3





    @mattdm, you were right to insist: it's XFS. I forgot we have separate volumes for /home, /var and several more. Though I use XFS often and hadn't seen this behaviour. How can it be related?

    – rsuarez
    Mar 16 '11 at 14:13






  • 2





    acl can override umask locally. Is it possible your directories are being mounted with acl?

    – Faheem Mitha
    Mar 17 '11 at 21:33






  • 3





    Hmm, apparently xfs always has acl enabled. so it might not show in your /etc/fstab. Try running getfacl on your partitions/directories.

    – Faheem Mitha
    Mar 17 '11 at 21:40














  • 3





    What filesystem type is your home directory on?

    – mattdm
    Mar 16 '11 at 12:33






  • 4





    And how are you creating testfile and testdir?

    – mattdm
    Mar 16 '11 at 12:34






  • 3





    @mattdm, you were right to insist: it's XFS. I forgot we have separate volumes for /home, /var and several more. Though I use XFS often and hadn't seen this behaviour. How can it be related?

    – rsuarez
    Mar 16 '11 at 14:13






  • 2





    acl can override umask locally. Is it possible your directories are being mounted with acl?

    – Faheem Mitha
    Mar 17 '11 at 21:33






  • 3





    Hmm, apparently xfs always has acl enabled. so it might not show in your /etc/fstab. Try running getfacl on your partitions/directories.

    – Faheem Mitha
    Mar 17 '11 at 21:40








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What filesystem type is your home directory on?

– mattdm
Mar 16 '11 at 12:33





What filesystem type is your home directory on?

– mattdm
Mar 16 '11 at 12:33




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4





And how are you creating testfile and testdir?

– mattdm
Mar 16 '11 at 12:34





And how are you creating testfile and testdir?

– mattdm
Mar 16 '11 at 12:34




3




3





@mattdm, you were right to insist: it's XFS. I forgot we have separate volumes for /home, /var and several more. Though I use XFS often and hadn't seen this behaviour. How can it be related?

– rsuarez
Mar 16 '11 at 14:13





@mattdm, you were right to insist: it's XFS. I forgot we have separate volumes for /home, /var and several more. Though I use XFS often and hadn't seen this behaviour. How can it be related?

– rsuarez
Mar 16 '11 at 14:13




2




2





acl can override umask locally. Is it possible your directories are being mounted with acl?

– Faheem Mitha
Mar 17 '11 at 21:33





acl can override umask locally. Is it possible your directories are being mounted with acl?

– Faheem Mitha
Mar 17 '11 at 21:33




3




3





Hmm, apparently xfs always has acl enabled. so it might not show in your /etc/fstab. Try running getfacl on your partitions/directories.

– Faheem Mitha
Mar 17 '11 at 21:40





Hmm, apparently xfs always has acl enabled. so it might not show in your /etc/fstab. Try running getfacl on your partitions/directories.

– Faheem Mitha
Mar 17 '11 at 21:40










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I don't know if it's proper to answer my own question. Editors, please, advise on this if this is not the case. Thanks in advance.



I think I've solved this mystery: the problem was the lack of a default ACL on the XFS volumes. Here's the ACL entry for /srv/backups, one of the directories affected:



# file: srv/backups
# owner: root
# group: root
user::rwx
group::r-x
other::r-x


Whenever I did a "mkdir test" or "touch testfile", it would came up with permissions 777. So I did this:



setfacl -m d:u::rwx /srv/backups


Leaving the ACL like this:



# file: srv/backups
# owner: root
# group: root
user::rwx
group::r-x
other::r-x
default:user::rwx
default:group::r-x
default:other::r-x


Previously there (supposedly) was no ACL, but now there is. I can see the "+" sign attached to the permissions when I do a "ls -l". And magically, now "mkdir test" and "touch testfile" work with the expected permissions:



# ls -l testfile 
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 20 10:00 testfile
# ls -ld testdir
drwxr-xr-x+ 2 root root 6 Dec 20 10:00 testdir


I don't know why this happens. I guess XFS doesn't like not having a default ACL, and behaves strangely when it happens. Also, I've seen this happen only in CentOS, not in Debian/Ubuntu. Maybe it's related to the XFS version in the kernel, or something like that. No idea.



Anyway, that settles the case for me. Thanks a lot for all the suggestions :-)






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The creat call can explictly specify permissions which take precedence over umask.



You haven't answered how you're creating testfile,testdir.



Create the file using touch testfile, then list and post the permissions






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  • Sorry for the delay. I did test using "touch testfile", and also "mkdir testdir", with similar results. umask seems to be set to "0000", because they are created with permissions 777.

    – rsuarez
    Dec 20 '11 at 8:43



















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Try a getfacl . in the directory you are creating your test file, to see if there is a default acl affecting the permissions.






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    Nope, no default ACL. It seems to be related to XFS somehow, because it only happens in XFS volumes. But thanks anyway.

    – rsuarez
    Dec 20 '11 at 8:37



















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Just look for the USERGROUPS_ENAB variable on /etc/login.defs



Them comment in order to disable it
# USERGROUPS_ENAB yes



If you also want to change your current user's umask, you should first fallow the previous procedure and them do the following.



example for 027



echo "umask 027" >> ~/.bashrc && pkill -KILL -u your_username_here



echo "umask 027" >> ~/.bashrc
this command will set an umask default value for your profile



this will forces you to log out



after login again



just run the umask comand again and see if it works for you





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    I don't know if it's proper to answer my own question. Editors, please, advise on this if this is not the case. Thanks in advance.



    I think I've solved this mystery: the problem was the lack of a default ACL on the XFS volumes. Here's the ACL entry for /srv/backups, one of the directories affected:



    # file: srv/backups
    # owner: root
    # group: root
    user::rwx
    group::r-x
    other::r-x


    Whenever I did a "mkdir test" or "touch testfile", it would came up with permissions 777. So I did this:



    setfacl -m d:u::rwx /srv/backups


    Leaving the ACL like this:



    # file: srv/backups
    # owner: root
    # group: root
    user::rwx
    group::r-x
    other::r-x
    default:user::rwx
    default:group::r-x
    default:other::r-x


    Previously there (supposedly) was no ACL, but now there is. I can see the "+" sign attached to the permissions when I do a "ls -l". And magically, now "mkdir test" and "touch testfile" work with the expected permissions:



    # ls -l testfile 
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 20 10:00 testfile
    # ls -ld testdir
    drwxr-xr-x+ 2 root root 6 Dec 20 10:00 testdir


    I don't know why this happens. I guess XFS doesn't like not having a default ACL, and behaves strangely when it happens. Also, I've seen this happen only in CentOS, not in Debian/Ubuntu. Maybe it's related to the XFS version in the kernel, or something like that. No idea.



    Anyway, that settles the case for me. Thanks a lot for all the suggestions :-)






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    I don't know if it's proper to answer my own question. Editors, please, advise on this if this is not the case. Thanks in advance.



    I think I've solved this mystery: the problem was the lack of a default ACL on the XFS volumes. Here's the ACL entry for /srv/backups, one of the directories affected:



    # file: srv/backups
    # owner: root
    # group: root
    user::rwx
    group::r-x
    other::r-x


    Whenever I did a "mkdir test" or "touch testfile", it would came up with permissions 777. So I did this:



    setfacl -m d:u::rwx /srv/backups


    Leaving the ACL like this:



    # file: srv/backups
    # owner: root
    # group: root
    user::rwx
    group::r-x
    other::r-x
    default:user::rwx
    default:group::r-x
    default:other::r-x


    Previously there (supposedly) was no ACL, but now there is. I can see the "+" sign attached to the permissions when I do a "ls -l". And magically, now "mkdir test" and "touch testfile" work with the expected permissions:



    # ls -l testfile 
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 20 10:00 testfile
    # ls -ld testdir
    drwxr-xr-x+ 2 root root 6 Dec 20 10:00 testdir


    I don't know why this happens. I guess XFS doesn't like not having a default ACL, and behaves strangely when it happens. Also, I've seen this happen only in CentOS, not in Debian/Ubuntu. Maybe it's related to the XFS version in the kernel, or something like that. No idea.



    Anyway, that settles the case for me. Thanks a lot for all the suggestions :-)






    share|improve this answer
























    • Answering your own question is perfectly acceptable.

      – Keith Thompson
      Dec 20 '11 at 10:30
















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    3








    3







    I don't know if it's proper to answer my own question. Editors, please, advise on this if this is not the case. Thanks in advance.



    I think I've solved this mystery: the problem was the lack of a default ACL on the XFS volumes. Here's the ACL entry for /srv/backups, one of the directories affected:



    # file: srv/backups
    # owner: root
    # group: root
    user::rwx
    group::r-x
    other::r-x


    Whenever I did a "mkdir test" or "touch testfile", it would came up with permissions 777. So I did this:



    setfacl -m d:u::rwx /srv/backups


    Leaving the ACL like this:



    # file: srv/backups
    # owner: root
    # group: root
    user::rwx
    group::r-x
    other::r-x
    default:user::rwx
    default:group::r-x
    default:other::r-x


    Previously there (supposedly) was no ACL, but now there is. I can see the "+" sign attached to the permissions when I do a "ls -l". And magically, now "mkdir test" and "touch testfile" work with the expected permissions:



    # ls -l testfile 
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 20 10:00 testfile
    # ls -ld testdir
    drwxr-xr-x+ 2 root root 6 Dec 20 10:00 testdir


    I don't know why this happens. I guess XFS doesn't like not having a default ACL, and behaves strangely when it happens. Also, I've seen this happen only in CentOS, not in Debian/Ubuntu. Maybe it's related to the XFS version in the kernel, or something like that. No idea.



    Anyway, that settles the case for me. Thanks a lot for all the suggestions :-)






    share|improve this answer













    I don't know if it's proper to answer my own question. Editors, please, advise on this if this is not the case. Thanks in advance.



    I think I've solved this mystery: the problem was the lack of a default ACL on the XFS volumes. Here's the ACL entry for /srv/backups, one of the directories affected:



    # file: srv/backups
    # owner: root
    # group: root
    user::rwx
    group::r-x
    other::r-x


    Whenever I did a "mkdir test" or "touch testfile", it would came up with permissions 777. So I did this:



    setfacl -m d:u::rwx /srv/backups


    Leaving the ACL like this:



    # file: srv/backups
    # owner: root
    # group: root
    user::rwx
    group::r-x
    other::r-x
    default:user::rwx
    default:group::r-x
    default:other::r-x


    Previously there (supposedly) was no ACL, but now there is. I can see the "+" sign attached to the permissions when I do a "ls -l". And magically, now "mkdir test" and "touch testfile" work with the expected permissions:



    # ls -l testfile 
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 20 10:00 testfile
    # ls -ld testdir
    drwxr-xr-x+ 2 root root 6 Dec 20 10:00 testdir


    I don't know why this happens. I guess XFS doesn't like not having a default ACL, and behaves strangely when it happens. Also, I've seen this happen only in CentOS, not in Debian/Ubuntu. Maybe it's related to the XFS version in the kernel, or something like that. No idea.



    Anyway, that settles the case for me. Thanks a lot for all the suggestions :-)







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    Answering your own question is perfectly acceptable.

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    Answering your own question is perfectly acceptable.

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    The creat call can explictly specify permissions which take precedence over umask.



    You haven't answered how you're creating testfile,testdir.



    Create the file using touch testfile, then list and post the permissions






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    • Sorry for the delay. I did test using "touch testfile", and also "mkdir testdir", with similar results. umask seems to be set to "0000", because they are created with permissions 777.

      – rsuarez
      Dec 20 '11 at 8:43
















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    The creat call can explictly specify permissions which take precedence over umask.



    You haven't answered how you're creating testfile,testdir.



    Create the file using touch testfile, then list and post the permissions






    share|improve this answer
























    • Sorry for the delay. I did test using "touch testfile", and also "mkdir testdir", with similar results. umask seems to be set to "0000", because they are created with permissions 777.

      – rsuarez
      Dec 20 '11 at 8:43














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    The creat call can explictly specify permissions which take precedence over umask.



    You haven't answered how you're creating testfile,testdir.



    Create the file using touch testfile, then list and post the permissions






    share|improve this answer













    The creat call can explictly specify permissions which take precedence over umask.



    You haven't answered how you're creating testfile,testdir.



    Create the file using touch testfile, then list and post the permissions







    share|improve this answer












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    • Sorry for the delay. I did test using "touch testfile", and also "mkdir testdir", with similar results. umask seems to be set to "0000", because they are created with permissions 777.

      – rsuarez
      Dec 20 '11 at 8:43



















    • Sorry for the delay. I did test using "touch testfile", and also "mkdir testdir", with similar results. umask seems to be set to "0000", because they are created with permissions 777.

      – rsuarez
      Dec 20 '11 at 8:43

















    Sorry for the delay. I did test using "touch testfile", and also "mkdir testdir", with similar results. umask seems to be set to "0000", because they are created with permissions 777.

    – rsuarez
    Dec 20 '11 at 8:43





    Sorry for the delay. I did test using "touch testfile", and also "mkdir testdir", with similar results. umask seems to be set to "0000", because they are created with permissions 777.

    – rsuarez
    Dec 20 '11 at 8:43











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    Try a getfacl . in the directory you are creating your test file, to see if there is a default acl affecting the permissions.






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      Nope, no default ACL. It seems to be related to XFS somehow, because it only happens in XFS volumes. But thanks anyway.

      – rsuarez
      Dec 20 '11 at 8:37
















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    Try a getfacl . in the directory you are creating your test file, to see if there is a default acl affecting the permissions.






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      Nope, no default ACL. It seems to be related to XFS somehow, because it only happens in XFS volumes. But thanks anyway.

      – rsuarez
      Dec 20 '11 at 8:37














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    Try a getfacl . in the directory you are creating your test file, to see if there is a default acl affecting the permissions.






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    Try a getfacl . in the directory you are creating your test file, to see if there is a default acl affecting the permissions.







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      Nope, no default ACL. It seems to be related to XFS somehow, because it only happens in XFS volumes. But thanks anyway.

      – rsuarez
      Dec 20 '11 at 8:37














    • 1





      Nope, no default ACL. It seems to be related to XFS somehow, because it only happens in XFS volumes. But thanks anyway.

      – rsuarez
      Dec 20 '11 at 8:37








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    Nope, no default ACL. It seems to be related to XFS somehow, because it only happens in XFS volumes. But thanks anyway.

    – rsuarez
    Dec 20 '11 at 8:37





    Nope, no default ACL. It seems to be related to XFS somehow, because it only happens in XFS volumes. But thanks anyway.

    – rsuarez
    Dec 20 '11 at 8:37











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    Just look for the USERGROUPS_ENAB variable on /etc/login.defs



    Them comment in order to disable it
    # USERGROUPS_ENAB yes



    If you also want to change your current user's umask, you should first fallow the previous procedure and them do the following.



    example for 027



    echo "umask 027" >> ~/.bashrc && pkill -KILL -u your_username_here



    echo "umask 027" >> ~/.bashrc
    this command will set an umask default value for your profile



    this will forces you to log out



    after login again



    just run the umask comand again and see if it works for you





    share








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      Just look for the USERGROUPS_ENAB variable on /etc/login.defs



      Them comment in order to disable it
      # USERGROUPS_ENAB yes



      If you also want to change your current user's umask, you should first fallow the previous procedure and them do the following.



      example for 027



      echo "umask 027" >> ~/.bashrc && pkill -KILL -u your_username_here



      echo "umask 027" >> ~/.bashrc
      this command will set an umask default value for your profile



      this will forces you to log out



      after login again



      just run the umask comand again and see if it works for you





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        Just look for the USERGROUPS_ENAB variable on /etc/login.defs



        Them comment in order to disable it
        # USERGROUPS_ENAB yes



        If you also want to change your current user's umask, you should first fallow the previous procedure and them do the following.



        example for 027



        echo "umask 027" >> ~/.bashrc && pkill -KILL -u your_username_here



        echo "umask 027" >> ~/.bashrc
        this command will set an umask default value for your profile



        this will forces you to log out



        after login again



        just run the umask comand again and see if it works for you





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        Just look for the USERGROUPS_ENAB variable on /etc/login.defs



        Them comment in order to disable it
        # USERGROUPS_ENAB yes



        If you also want to change your current user's umask, you should first fallow the previous procedure and them do the following.



        example for 027



        echo "umask 027" >> ~/.bashrc && pkill -KILL -u your_username_here



        echo "umask 027" >> ~/.bashrc
        this command will set an umask default value for your profile



        this will forces you to log out



        after login again



        just run the umask comand again and see if it works for you






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